Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on June 01, 2002 08:18 PM
The TCO debate is advanced fud along the same lines as the "Linux virus" myth. Breaking the costs down. Hardware: Linux and Windows run on the same hardware. This cost is identical Software: The cost of software is basicly free with Linux and $50 to $2,000 for Windows.
Tech support: If your IT staff even needs this your suffering badly. That said.. Linux tech support: Free via irc Windows tech support: usually included with the software for something like 90 days.. then pay after that. Additionally Linux favers trainning over tech support.
Trainning: Here is where tge fud hits the fan. Clames of millions for Unix trainning for office support is very dishonnest. That price tag is for professional trainning of admin to run Unix AND NT boxes side by side. It's not a reflection of the trainning costs for Unix in an office environment. The Windows side then clames no cost at all. The truth is that the total buget for trainning is the smallest part of the TCO equasion. It's hidden in admin costs and tech support costs. A full trainning session vertually eliminates tech support and slashes admin costs. Trainning costs are identical unless you go for cerifications.. then Microsoft can actually be more expensive.
I'm remembering the office as it was in the 1970's & 1980's. Trainning: None each employee read the manual and trainned his/her self. Tech support: Ask the tech/computer guy/lady...
The TCO was hardware + software.. The hardware cost was dictated by need.. software was cheep.
In the end we can fuzz up with numbers the only TCO varable is the price of the software. The rest is a fixed cost.
What makes this debate interesting is the TCO calculations reguarding tech support and trainning are favoring Unix now a day. It's really just an issue if bad management to throw good money after bad at poor trainning and questionable support.
It just so happends that this one peace of FUD is comming back to haunt Microsoft and is bitting Sun on the butt. Both well deserved. Sun is a hardware vender who isn't able to make compeditive systems anymore. They use Solarus to make themselvs compeditive. But Solarus has it's own sad history.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 01, 2002 08:18 PMBreaking the costs down.
Hardware: Linux and Windows run on the same hardware. This cost is identical
Software: The cost of software is basicly free with Linux and $50 to $2,000 for Windows.
Tech support: If your IT staff even needs this your suffering badly.
That said..
Linux tech support: Free via irc
Windows tech support: usually included with the software for something like 90 days.. then pay after that.
Additionally Linux favers trainning over tech support.
Trainning: Here is where tge fud hits the fan.
Clames of millions for Unix trainning for office support is very dishonnest.
That price tag is for professional trainning of admin to run Unix AND NT boxes side by side. It's not a reflection of the trainning costs for Unix in an office environment.
The Windows side then clames no cost at all.
The truth is that the total buget for trainning is the smallest part of the TCO equasion. It's hidden in admin costs and tech support costs. A full trainning session vertually eliminates tech support and slashes admin costs.
Trainning costs are identical unless you go for cerifications.. then Microsoft can actually be more expensive.
I'm remembering the office as it was in the 1970's & 1980's.
Trainning: None each employee read the manual and trainned his/her self.
Tech support: Ask the tech/computer guy/lady...
The TCO was hardware + software.. The hardware cost was dictated by need.. software was cheep.
In the end we can fuzz up with numbers the only TCO varable is the price of the software. The rest is a fixed cost.
What makes this debate interesting is the TCO calculations reguarding tech support and trainning are favoring Unix now a day.
It's really just an issue if bad management to throw good money after bad at poor trainning and questionable support.
It just so happends that this one peace of FUD is comming back to haunt Microsoft and is bitting Sun on the butt.
Both well deserved.
Sun is a hardware vender who isn't able to make compeditive systems anymore. They use Solarus to make themselvs compeditive.
But Solarus has it's own sad history.
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