Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on June 04, 2002 05:18 PM
1.) Linux-like does not always mean best. Ask a FreeBSD project member and see what [s]he has to say.
Response: It could not mean best but it means you save on training since people you recruit are far more likely to know Linus than AIX. You also get more homogeinity with your IA32 Linux servers and your Linux virtual machines on z series. For the BSD people: you cannot run Oracle on BSD (use through an emulator voids support so boss will not let you), it does not run on wristwatches and on zSeries and BSD's superiority is a thing of the past so they are bitter about Linux.
2.) I run a dedicated samba server providing file access to Windows users. It's been running on AIX for years. As for perl and python, we use those too. In fact, the majority of our administration scripts are written in perl and ksh. No decent editor you say? vi/vim/gvim, emacs/xemacs/memacs, nedit, and more are used on a daily basis by the hundreds of users on my AIX servers.
Response: I knew that but you don't get them out of the box and that has a number of drawbacks I analysed in another post. Also guess which Samba is better tested and supported? Samba on AIX or Samba on Linux?
3.) The GNU versions of grep, awk, tar, bash and many other command line utilities can be installed on AIX. Yes, even X11 desktop manager suites like GNOME and KDE run on AIX just fine. I run most of these programs on many Power CPU-based servers myself. Visit: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/aix/products/aixos/li nux/download.html [ibm.com] to download 120+ such applications for AIX 4.3.3 and 5L.
Same thing: you don't get them out of the box, (with same set of drawbacks) plus Gnome, KDE, bash are better supported on Linux
Later you answer to a person who says Aix aint Unix. My own answer would have been I cannot care less. When AIX was created, Unix was (rightly) not considered as suitable for mission critical tasks. It had a pathetic security model (the infamous rwx bits plus the setuid Damocles sword), it lost data with unplanned shutdowns, had not real locking and was unable to recover gracefully from peripheral failure. Just to name a few. So IBM picked some ideas from MVS and put them into AIX. This didn't sit well with the Unix people who had developped an antimainframe, anti-IBM mindset. But I for one, I am longing for IBM adding to Linux some of those non-Unix AIX features.
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Re:Previous Anti-AIX Posts With Little/No Truth
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 04, 2002 05:18 PMResponse: It could not mean best but it means you save on training since people you recruit are far more likely to know Linus than AIX. You also get more homogeinity with your IA32 Linux servers and your Linux virtual machines on z series. For the BSD people: you cannot run Oracle on BSD (use through an emulator voids support so boss will not let you), it does not run on wristwatches and on zSeries and BSD's superiority is a thing of the past so they are bitter about Linux.
2.) I run a dedicated samba server providing file access to Windows users. It's been running on AIX for years. As for perl and python, we use those too. In fact, the majority of our administration scripts are written in perl and ksh. No decent editor you say? vi/vim/gvim, emacs/xemacs/memacs, nedit, and more are used on a daily basis by the hundreds of users on my AIX servers.
Response: I knew that but you don't get them out of the box and that has a number of drawbacks I analysed in another post. Also guess which Samba is better tested and supported? Samba on AIX or Samba on Linux?
3.) The GNU versions of grep, awk, tar, bash and many other command line utilities can be installed on AIX. Yes, even X11 desktop manager suites like GNOME and KDE run on AIX just fine. I run most of these programs on many Power CPU-based servers myself.
Visit: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/aix/products/aixos/li nux/download.html [ibm.com] to download 120+ such applications for AIX 4.3.3 and 5L.
Same thing: you don't get them out of the box, (with same set of drawbacks) plus Gnome, KDE, bash are better supported on Linux
Later you answer to a person who says Aix aint Unix. My own answer would have been I cannot care less. When AIX was created, Unix was (rightly) not considered as suitable for mission critical tasks. It had a pathetic security model (the infamous rwx bits plus the setuid Damocles sword), it lost data with unplanned shutdowns, had not real locking and was unable to recover gracefully from peripheral failure. Just to name a few. So IBM picked some ideas from MVS and put them into AIX. This didn't sit well with the Unix people who had developped an antimainframe, anti-IBM mindset. But I for one, I am longing for IBM adding to Linux some of those non-Unix AIX features.
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