Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on August 30, 2002 06:06 AM
I've got 4 copies of the LAME, and DECSS, and XMMS source on my 4 home boxes, and several backups on cd too, and there are probably thousands of other copies all over the net. AFAIK it's still perfectly legal to distribute source code, so if anybody REALLY can't live without mp3, I'm sure you won't have any trouble getting a copy. I seriously doubt that fraunhoffer will be searching your PC (ala RIAA) to find infringers, but if you're ridiculously legally scrupulous (or morally anal retentive), just use OGG and get over it. Most popular software players already support vorbis. As for hardware players, how long did it take to get hardware mp3 players? Most folks I know still don't have portable mp3 players. It may take a while, but by the time we get there ogg will be an option.
I wonder if KDE could maybe include the source for lame in kdevelop as an example, maybe as a tutorial, for kdevelop. That would solve redhat (et al)'s problems. (IANAL, they'd probably have to include legal disclaimers or such, BFD to the end user).
I already re-ripped my whole cd collection to ogg when 1.0 was released. Nothing to do with IP issues, it (-q6 ogg) sounds better than (192Kcbr) mp3s and gives better compression ratios too.
If fraunhoffer wants to push users from mp3 to mp3pro, I think they are more likely to push users to ogg or (uggggh!) wma. For me mp3pro is not an option, as is wma (which sucks quality-wise anyway).
There is no incentive for anyone to buy mp3pro - ogg vorbis is technically superior, and is free (beer & speech). And wma is free (beer, as far as windoze lusers are concerned). As far as I (and most people I know) mp3 is a deprecated format, headed for extinction. All our future works will be<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ogg. And our past works (16 trak > PCM) will be redone in vorbis.
(Disclaimer : AFAIK, IIRC, IANAL so YMMV and I've had too much (not-so-free) beer so TIWAGOS)
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on August 30, 2002 06:06 AMI wonder if KDE could maybe include the source for lame in kdevelop as an example, maybe as a tutorial, for kdevelop. That would solve redhat (et al)'s problems. (IANAL, they'd probably have to include legal disclaimers or such, BFD to the end user).
I already re-ripped my whole cd collection to ogg when 1.0 was released. Nothing to do with IP issues, it (-q6 ogg) sounds better than (192Kcbr) mp3s and gives better compression ratios too.
If fraunhoffer wants to push users from mp3 to mp3pro, I think they are more likely to push users to ogg or (uggggh!) wma. For me mp3pro is not an option, as is wma (which sucks quality-wise anyway).
There is no incentive for anyone to buy mp3pro - ogg vorbis is technically superior, and is free (beer & speech). And wma is free (beer, as far as windoze lusers are concerned). As far as I (and most people I know) mp3 is a deprecated format, headed for extinction. All our future works will be<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ogg. And our past works (16 trak > PCM) will be redone in vorbis.
(Disclaimer : AFAIK, IIRC, IANAL so YMMV and I've had too much (not-so-free) beer so TIWAGOS)
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