Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on September 29, 2002 08:16 AM
"Abusive"? Oh, yes.. that would have got to do with people Getting their "Free Trial CD", that's better for "Micro$oft's Today" (and worse for GNU & Linux's tommorow), or "Getting Micro$HAFT behind their business" (and right up GNU/Linux's ass..). You see, it is abusive. Micro$hhaft want to destroy Linux, its user community and its development community, and this has been on their mind as far back as 1998 with the leaked "Halloween Report". Yes, it is quite abusive. A strong and healthy developer community on Linux is what has brought it to where it is today; without the mass developers, the users would not come to Linux (note, not the reverse, Linux/GNU/GPL developers inherantly don't have profit as their motive, and therefore the size of the user community is not important) M$ will therefore target that, and employ a corrupt company such as yours, VA $HAFTWARE to corrupt and pollute the community. If you will, the Linux community will embrace Micro$Haft, propetiery, anti-GPL, anti-Linux, and in turn embrace and extinguish itself.
I'll repeat for you nieve, short-sighted mind: yes, it is abusive, very abusive.
And "the Microsoft ads aren't particulatly new. So why all the fuss now"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. because I'm sick and sickened of it. This is unacceptable, period. I don't care when or how it started, but you own the prominent and infleuential network of "OSDN" sites -- supposeably used to support and promote Linux and Open Source, its development and community -- and it comes with certain responsibilites. One such responsibilty is to look after the communities interests. Period. This does not include accepting and displaying ads from a company intent on destroying the GNU/Linux community and its revoluion - Microsoft. I don't know how you can find this acceptable, because I, and a large number of your "OSDN" readers and visitors, do not find it acceptable at all. You are just exploiting and abusing the community in a most unremorseful, irresponsible, unacceptable manner.
"... I kind of like the irony myself"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. yea? Well I don't. I find it completely unacceptable; abusive, irresponsible, ignorant and hypocritical. Microsoft has no place *near* Linux and it and its community has been noted for taking this stance in the past. Which is absolutely right; Linux is competition, not only that, very competant and serious competition, and on those terms M$ will (try to) destroy it. We should keep as far away from M$HAFT as possible; we should resist it and oppose it, either that or we, Linux and the Linux community will be destroyed. Frankly, your site is not in the interests of the community, its development and community, and I find your va$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership unacceptable and irresponsible; indeed, I find the very existance of VA $HAFTWARE pityful (though anger invoking is probably a better word..), pathetic and parasite-like (VA S$HAFTWARe (the corrupt failure Augustin to be precise), have actually admitted most of their revenue comes from their "OSDN" sites). I don't want our community corrupted and polluted - as is MICRO$HAFT's intention- which is the prime reason I am not in favour of your accepting and displaying of VA$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership ads.
"The ads have nothing to do with the editorial content here. So I'm not sure how this is an "abusive" policy.".. you know right well why I find this abusive. The OSDN -- Open Source Development Network -- sites are visited by a vast, extensive number of the Linux community, both users and developers. They are ripe for exploitation and abuse; and the corrupt VA $HAFTWARE "OSDN" network is a perfect central place for M$ execute. M$ has this large community of the revolution, competitor it wants to destroy right at its fingertips.
Users (the used and exploited) of the OSDN, do not accept this; it's completely unacceptable.
So Grant ("the hypocritical corrupt wanker"), please shut your mouth, and instead listen and respond (and you know what I mean by respond<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. stop accepting blood money from $MHAFT and displaying their ads on the OSDN -- open Source Devlopemtn Network -- directly at the Linux/GNU community.. Period.) to the communities demands. And thanks for your consideration; for reading my initial post, and replying to it, which indicates you find it imporant and cannot be ignored. Well, at least I agree with you there, it cannot be ignored, and is very important to me, and the Linux community as a whole, for its development and competance and ability to compete. I want to see those ads gone. I want to see the abusive, irresponsible va$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership terminated, now. I will not go away, you may delete my post but you cannot delete my opinion. Listen, consider, and take action. VA $HAFTWARE, "Grant", end the exploitation. I don't care if all you change is that - those M$ ads - just change it.
OH and mods/censors: Please stop deleting my posts. Stop restraining free speech, I suggest you listen to these concerns. You may delete my posts, supress my opinion, but you cannot "delete" my opinion. I will continue with comments like this; it concerns myself and the GNU/Linux/Open Source community as a whole."
Re:va$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on September 29, 2002 08:16 AMI'll repeat for you nieve, short-sighted mind: yes, it is abusive, very abusive.
And "the Microsoft ads aren't particulatly new. So why all the fuss now"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. because I'm sick and sickened of it. This is unacceptable, period. I don't care when or how it started, but you own the prominent and infleuential network of "OSDN" sites -- supposeably used to support and promote Linux and Open Source, its development and community -- and it comes with certain responsibilites. One such responsibilty is to look after the communities interests. Period. This does not include accepting and displaying ads from a company intent on destroying the GNU/Linux community and its revoluion - Microsoft. I don't know how you can find this acceptable, because I, and a large number of your "OSDN" readers and visitors, do not find it acceptable at all. You are just exploiting and abusing the community in a most unremorseful, irresponsible, unacceptable manner.
"... I kind of like the irony myself"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. yea? Well I don't. I find it completely unacceptable; abusive, irresponsible, ignorant and hypocritical. Microsoft has no place *near* Linux and it and its community has been noted for taking this stance in the past. Which is absolutely right; Linux is competition, not only that, very competant and serious competition, and on those terms M$ will (try to) destroy it. We should keep as far away from M$HAFT as possible; we should resist it and oppose it, either that or we, Linux and the Linux community will be destroyed. Frankly, your site is not in the interests of the community, its development and community, and I find your va$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership unacceptable and irresponsible; indeed, I find the very existance of VA $HAFTWARE pityful (though anger invoking is probably a better word..), pathetic and parasite-like (VA S$HAFTWARe (the corrupt failure Augustin to be precise), have actually admitted most of their revenue comes from their "OSDN" sites). I don't want our community corrupted and polluted - as is MICRO$HAFT's intention- which is the prime reason I am not in favour of your accepting and displaying of VA$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership ads.
"The ads have nothing to do with the editorial content here. So I'm not sure how this is an "abusive" policy.".. you know right well why I find this abusive. The OSDN -- Open Source Development Network -- sites are visited by a vast, extensive number of the Linux community, both users and developers. They are ripe for exploitation and abuse; and the corrupt VA $HAFTWARE "OSDN" network is a perfect central place for M$ execute. M$ has this large community of the revolution, competitor it wants to destroy right at its fingertips.
Users (the used and exploited) of the OSDN, do not accept this; it's completely unacceptable.
So Grant ("the hypocritical corrupt wanker"), please shut your mouth, and instead listen and respond (and you know what I mean by respond<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. stop accepting blood money from $MHAFT and displaying their ads on the OSDN -- open Source Devlopemtn Network -- directly at the Linux/GNU community.. Period.) to the communities demands. And thanks for your consideration; for reading my initial post, and replying to it, which indicates you find it imporant and cannot be ignored. Well, at least I agree with you there, it cannot be ignored, and is very important to me, and the Linux community as a whole, for its development and competance and ability to compete. I want to see those ads gone. I want to see the abusive, irresponsible va$HAFTWARE-M$ partnership terminated, now. I will not go away, you may delete my post but you cannot delete my opinion. Listen, consider, and take action. VA $HAFTWARE, "Grant", end the exploitation. I don't care if all you change is that - those M$ ads - just change it.
OH and mods/censors: Please stop deleting my posts. Stop restraining free speech, I suggest you listen to these concerns. You may delete my posts, supress my opinion, but you cannot "delete" my opinion. I will continue with comments like this; it concerns myself and the GNU/Linux/Open Source community as a whole."
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