Your assertion may be true, indeed. But your astute observation does NOTHING to affirm the right and the MORAL obligation of Vietnam to protect itself from imperialistic, despotic, desperados of ANY of the 1st world nations who EXPLOIT the peoples of foreign lands who, of course, would be all to happy to get that 45 cents per hour improvement.
Now, I've been to Vietnam, and I drove from Tuy Hoa to Qui Nhon, and it rained. It was a slow meandering, and sobering ride. All along the way, I saw LUSH green mountain sides (during Tet of 1998), and it made me cry. I am only 37 years old, but before I even heard of Linux, I felt these poor, proud (tho government-exploited) people deserve their independence from any oppressive companies or exploitative ones. I have to ask you to go visit the Reebok plant their. Then ask yourself what harm Good 'Ole, "Merikun CEOs did to Americans who lost their jobs, not to Vietnamese, but to the next inexpensive laborer. Companies that abandon their nations and ditch hundreds of "expensive/$25/hr" employees should just go out of business, if they cannot respect people. Now, if they retrain those fired Americans and at the same time set a DECENT, western face and convince OTHER US companies setting up shop in foreign/3rd-world/under-developed nations to "help raise those boats in our water (sea of reaped profits), then we might, as a nation, deserve some more respect."
The Vietnamese, as I've seen when I lived in San Jose, are PROUD, resourceful people (discounting the ganger-bangers, CPU-truck heisters, and so forth, but then every race has desperados...) and HELPED BUILD UP SAN JOSE, yet san jose, in it's "enlightenemnt" razed/declared eminent domain on a slew of Vn cafes, REALLY got, scrumptuous restaurants I catered on several occasions. Yeh, the owners may have been sweetly paid off (I would be remiss to refute the allegation), but they also could have been offered good sweet ground-spots as a "THANK YOU FROM SAN JOSE"? Why? Because in the late 80's when san jose's downtown was sporting streetwalkers, shop robbers, and so forth, the Vietnamese bought or leased real estate and brought in sandwich shops, jewelry stores, and more. THEN, san jose credited the Vietnamese community for Downtown's dramatic, splendid recovery. So, if Vietnam the nation bites ms' hand by ditching windows and LEGALLY adopting, SMARTLY, PROUDLY, INGENIOUSLY switching to Linux, then... (Yeh, when I went to VN it was for a genuine trip, not western pedoephelia/culture abuse, AND, AND, I drank local water and ate raw veggies and didn't get sick, tho some 3-day old, rancid pork, and radiator-cut "Cognac" did a number on me... ) Yeh, and the police there didn't bother with, me, didn't interrogate me, and didn't pester me while I walked around Thuy Hoa and lived with my host family (I am not VN, and I'm not caucasian...). More US Citizens need to go see some poor nations and live among the PEOPLE, not the touristy city centers...
MORE POWER TO VIETNAM and PERU and ANY other company that creatively, LEGALLY, gives microsfot the big, good, SHARP kick in the butt.
Karma/What comes around, whatever you want to call it... WE, THE US CITIZENS live HIGH ON THE HOG of technology's fruits, yet we shomb the bit out of smaller nations, exploit labor, and technologically suppress nations. Well, grab this week's copy of Newsweek and take a look at that handsome face under a silicon or etch layer.... Technology manufacturing in China is replaching wood-working and tennis shoe making.... Things come full circle...
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Posted by: rmdirms on October 25, 2002 02:03 PMYour assertion may be true, indeed. But your astute observation does NOTHING to affirm the right and the MORAL obligation of Vietnam to protect itself from imperialistic, despotic, desperados of ANY of the 1st world nations who EXPLOIT the peoples of foreign lands who, of course, would be all to happy to get that 45 cents per hour improvement.
Now, I've been to Vietnam, and I drove from Tuy Hoa to Qui Nhon, and it rained. It was a slow meandering, and sobering ride. All along the way, I saw LUSH green mountain sides (during Tet of 1998), and it made me cry. I am only 37 years old, but before I even heard of Linux, I felt these poor, proud (tho government-exploited) people deserve their independence from any oppressive companies or exploitative ones. I have to ask you to go visit the Reebok plant their. Then ask yourself what harm Good 'Ole, "Merikun CEOs did to Americans who lost their jobs, not to Vietnamese, but to the next inexpensive laborer. Companies that abandon their nations and ditch hundreds of "expensive/$25/hr" employees should just go out of business, if they cannot respect people. Now, if they retrain those fired Americans and at the same time set a DECENT, western face and convince OTHER US companies setting up shop in foreign/3rd-world/under-developed nations to "help raise those boats in our water (sea of reaped profits), then we might, as a nation, deserve some more respect."
The Vietnamese, as I've seen when I lived in San Jose, are PROUD, resourceful people (discounting the ganger-bangers, CPU-truck heisters, and so forth, but then every race has desperados...) and HELPED BUILD UP SAN JOSE, yet san jose, in it's "enlightenemnt" razed/declared eminent domain on a slew of Vn cafes, REALLY got, scrumptuous restaurants I catered on several occasions. Yeh, the owners may have been sweetly paid off (I would be remiss to refute the allegation), but they also could have been offered good sweet ground-spots as a "THANK YOU FROM SAN JOSE"? Why? Because in the late 80's when san jose's downtown was sporting streetwalkers, shop robbers, and so forth, the Vietnamese bought or leased real estate and brought in sandwich shops, jewelry stores, and more. THEN, san jose credited the Vietnamese community for Downtown's dramatic, splendid recovery. So, if Vietnam the nation bites ms' hand by ditching windows and LEGALLY adopting, SMARTLY, PROUDLY, INGENIOUSLY switching to Linux, then... (Yeh, when I went to VN it was for a genuine trip, not western pedoephelia/culture abuse, AND, AND, I drank local water and ate raw veggies and didn't get sick, tho some 3-day old, rancid pork, and radiator-cut "Cognac" did a number on me... ) Yeh, and the police there didn't bother with, me, didn't interrogate me, and didn't pester me while I walked around Thuy Hoa and lived with my host family (I am not VN, and I'm not caucasian...). More US Citizens need to go see some poor nations and live among the PEOPLE, not the touristy city centers...
MORE POWER TO VIETNAM and PERU and ANY other company that creatively, LEGALLY, gives microsfot the big, good, SHARP kick in the butt.
Karma/What comes around, whatever you want to call it... WE, THE US CITIZENS live HIGH ON THE HOG of technology's fruits, yet we shomb the bit out of smaller nations, exploit labor, and technologically suppress nations. Well, grab this week's copy of Newsweek and take a look at that handsome face under a silicon or etch layer.... Technology manufacturing in China is replaching wood-working and tennis shoe making.... Things come full circle...
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