Whaddya mean :<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."People - It's software, not your children"?
Coders who don't work for microsoft are generally under constant THREAT by microsoft. What about THEIR children?????? Research dollars in ms are among FEW such budgets. All ms has to do is gyrate its loinal probiscus and everybody nearby is sprayed or injured if not on or in ms bed.
As for ms being fair on IP, jeez, man, with they buying sprees and ability to preempt technologies from startups they choose not to buy, why should they be worried? Many companies implode before we hear them ghasp simply because they end up in ms bullseye. (And, I understand a number of companies exist solely to get bought up by ms, tho many fail to get attention. But, the HotMail guy was lucky. So were Visio, but HotMail became HotSmell, and Visio was probably just whoring itself out, as I understand...)
For your benefit, remember they recently (purportedly?) double-crossed a cell phone company on whose board an ms-exec with ties to ms surely knew of the company's impending monetary or technical demise.
(Yet, they played out the situation until it reach the clause in the contract where ms says "If you go belly up or don't tell us all the facts, we own all your IP..." Surely, ms knew the company's fledgling state, smelled blood, and allowed the cell company to belive its future would turn around for the better. Surely, ms would not intentionally buy into or buy up a lousy company and then say, "Oh, we feel sorry for you, so you can go, no strings.." Just as the mill & belinda foundation SURELY are not making strings-free donations. When you donate, you DONATE, not gloat and demand "the donation (unspokenly) comes ONLY if you (further our monopoly by agreeing to ) use our products, eschew non-ms products where possible, and whatever else we think of before we sign on the lines..." And, DON'T tell me "they donate so much MONEEEEE", as my response to that is: If my parents were philanthropers to every city, county and state but were found to be incontrovertibly linked to the disapperances of persons x, y & z, the presence of gutted cows, the implosion of certain businesses and such, I'd say to hell with them and throw the book a them, for it's not the GOOD DEEDS that get their "asses" off the hook. Once they act this way, they're just despicable pieces of MEAT, not filial-piety-due parents. It's the eschewing and aversion of improper and muddying activities that preserve their integrity. Try getting a school to ditch their "donated" ms wares for Linux. Their boards are likely too "well-supported" to commit that kind of career or donation attraction suicide...)
Heck, with a ms-siding board member, how could ms NOT know the company was already in extremis? To me, it appears ms was buying time to get their hands on tech & IP to weasle deeper into the cell market, using that company's IP if it won/wins the gamble.
I personally believe the corporations reaching a certain size or acting in certain ways (particularly being a convicte monopoly) need to be slapped with instantaneous, retroactive life spans. When they trip the wire, their IP is divvied up and shared for the betterment of those less malicious. Humans have life spans, and non-will individuals' property ends up in probate or is outright stolen by family or state. So, mega corps which are recalictrant, vicious, malicious, FUD-spreading, Vapor-ware spreading, and on constant shopping sprees that result in no NEW technolgy but simply a rebranding, should face a during-business disbanding when they behave ruthlessly, foist vapor ware upon weaker competitors, donate but tie strings (I temped at Stanford GSB in 1997 and I was told the ms-acolytes there were ordered to expunge Novell...) to software use....You get my drift?
Over the past few years, we've seen ms go into PDAs, game consoles, Web, browsers, Instant Messaging, e-mail (and foisting html-mail on people), being a virus payload infrastructure, lying in court, fudging video testimony, and MORE. Fact is, ms has so much money they could go into selling panties and run Haynes out of business, or they could sell Lemonade and run RealLemon out of business. That AIN'T RIGHT!.)
((Are you an ms sympathiser, or what? If you swing a sword, it has to either go around or come back at some point (unless you drop it or cease your attack...)))
No one who's observed ms over the years should be letting ms off the hook so graciously. Business being ruthless only perpetuates the conduct because nearly-innocent kids grow up and have to "follow the ruthless corporate line" in many companies just to keep a job. Most businesses are antithetical to fairness. Yes, nobody ever said business was fair, but if Linux is ms' "manufacturing recall"/"grim reaper" message, the TOUGH.
I personally believe ms is behind the FUD and using SCO as a suicidal patsy. Nevermind how much blood changed hands at SCO. The pointers are indicating that ms has advantages to manipulating undisclosed aggreements clauses with the current SCO, and if the blokes in charge stand to get rich, what's to make them say to ms, "We don't have anything to do with the previous management.. leave us alone..." No, they'll take the money. Case closed!
(Now, if you feel the way I do, then reflect this diatribe to those who are hard-core ms acolytes, henchmen/henchwomen, and the like. Basically it comes down to this: "ms: Shape up or PERISH!" Your choice. The world decide, even if I am snuffed out by a ms-mob shooter or dragged into court for libel. Foreign nations' national security, homeland IP, and general pride further are eroded and mocked by ms and ms world-domination mission of over-diversifying. Over-divesifying brought down Rome and nearly wrecked the UK. If ms want's to learn from history, they'll pull back and consolidate and focus on core technologies and stop trampling and still-birthing companies already barely alive in their own markets or trying to emerge as a small-bit player.)
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Posted by: David Syes on May 23, 2003 04:44 PMCoders who don't work for microsoft are generally under constant THREAT by microsoft. What about THEIR children?????? Research dollars in ms are among FEW such budgets. All ms has to do is gyrate its loinal probiscus and everybody nearby is sprayed or injured if not on or in ms bed.
As for ms being fair on IP, jeez, man, with they buying sprees and ability to preempt technologies from startups they choose not to buy, why should they be worried? Many companies implode before we hear them ghasp simply because they end up in ms bullseye. (And, I understand a number of companies exist solely to get bought up by ms, tho many fail to get attention. But, the HotMail guy was lucky. So were Visio, but HotMail became HotSmell, and Visio was probably just whoring itself out, as I understand...)
For your benefit, remember they recently (purportedly?) double-crossed a cell phone company on whose board an ms-exec with ties to ms surely knew of the company's impending monetary or technical demise.
(Yet, they played out the situation until it reach the clause in the contract where ms says "If you go belly up or don't tell us all the facts, we own all your IP..." Surely, ms knew the company's fledgling state, smelled blood, and allowed the cell company to belive its future would turn around for the better. Surely, ms would not intentionally buy into or buy up a lousy company and then say, "Oh, we feel sorry for you, so you can go, no strings.." Just as the mill & belinda foundation SURELY are not making strings-free donations. When you donate, you DONATE, not gloat and demand "the donation (unspokenly) comes ONLY if you (further our monopoly by agreeing to ) use our products, eschew non-ms products where possible, and whatever else we think of before we sign on the lines..." And, DON'T tell me "they donate so much MONEEEEE", as my response to that is: If my parents were philanthropers to every city, county and state but were found to be incontrovertibly linked to the disapperances of persons x, y & z, the presence of gutted cows, the implosion of certain businesses and such, I'd say to hell with them and throw the book a them, for it's not the GOOD DEEDS that get their "asses" off the hook. Once they act this way, they're just despicable pieces of MEAT, not filial-piety-due parents. It's the eschewing and aversion of improper and muddying activities that preserve their integrity. Try getting a school to ditch their "donated" ms wares for Linux. Their boards are likely too "well-supported" to commit that kind of career or donation attraction suicide...)
Heck, with a ms-siding board member, how could ms NOT know the company was already in extremis? To me, it appears ms was buying time to get their hands on tech & IP to weasle deeper into the cell market, using that company's IP if it won/wins the gamble.
I personally believe the corporations reaching a certain size or acting in certain ways (particularly being a convicte monopoly) need to be slapped with instantaneous, retroactive life spans. When they trip the wire, their IP is divvied up and shared for the betterment of those less malicious. Humans have life spans, and non-will individuals' property ends up in probate or is outright stolen by family or state. So, mega corps which are recalictrant, vicious, malicious, FUD-spreading, Vapor-ware spreading, and on constant shopping sprees that result in no NEW technolgy but simply a rebranding, should face a during-business disbanding when they behave ruthlessly, foist vapor ware upon weaker competitors, donate but tie strings (I temped at Stanford GSB in 1997 and I was told the ms-acolytes there were ordered to expunge Novell...) to software use....You get my drift?
Over the past few years, we've seen ms go into PDAs, game consoles, Web, browsers, Instant Messaging, e-mail (and foisting html-mail on people), being a virus payload infrastructure, lying in court, fudging video testimony, and MORE. Fact is, ms has so much money they could go into selling panties and run Haynes out of business, or they could sell Lemonade and run RealLemon out of business. That AIN'T RIGHT!.)
((Are you an ms sympathiser, or what? If you swing a sword, it has to either go around or come back at some point (unless you drop it or cease your attack...)))
No one who's observed ms over the years should be letting ms off the hook so graciously. Business being ruthless only perpetuates the conduct because nearly-innocent kids grow up and have to "follow the ruthless corporate line" in many companies just to keep a job. Most businesses are antithetical to fairness. Yes, nobody ever said business was fair, but if Linux is ms' "manufacturing recall"/"grim reaper" message, the TOUGH.
I personally believe ms is behind the FUD and using SCO as a suicidal patsy. Nevermind how much blood changed hands at SCO. The pointers are indicating that ms has advantages to manipulating undisclosed aggreements clauses with the current SCO, and if the blokes in charge stand to get rich, what's to make them say to ms, "We don't have anything to do with the previous management.. leave us alone..." No, they'll take the money. Case closed!
(Now, if you feel the way I do, then reflect this diatribe to those who are hard-core ms acolytes, henchmen/henchwomen, and the like. Basically it comes down to this: "ms: Shape up or PERISH!" Your choice. The world decide, even if I am snuffed out by a ms-mob shooter or dragged into court for libel. Foreign nations' national security, homeland IP, and general pride further are eroded and mocked by ms and ms world-domination mission of over-diversifying. Over-divesifying brought down Rome and nearly wrecked the UK. If ms want's to learn from history, they'll pull back and consolidate and focus on core technologies and stop trampling and still-birthing companies already barely alive in their own markets or trying to emerge as a small-bit player.)
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