Point taken, but you might consider getting a username. Or not, it's your choice; just don't be surprised when people confuse you with someone else.
To criticize (call names, create satire, etc) is at the heart of political dissension.
It's one thing to criticize based on facts, quite another to call names. It's the difference between ad rem and ad hominem arguments.
The next thing you'll be saying is that the founding fathers were the most civil people in the world, they never did anything illegal and never called anyone names!
I have said, and will say no such things. I know that the Founding Fathers were contentious, loud-mouthed, stubborn hell-raisers. Anything less and we would still be British colonies.
Of course, one of the primary acts of patriotism that we talk about them committing was vandalizing a corporate freighter and tossing it's cargo overboard. Not that I disagree with that, it was a good gesture of civil disobedience.
I agree with you unreservedly.
However, compared to that, I wouldn't exactly call name-calling "stooping". It's called protected political speech, bub - live with it or shut the hell up.
Isn't that contradicting yourself? You claim the right to state your disagreement with me. I have that same right, but nowhere on this board have I told anyone to "shut the hell up," nor will I. Free speech for everybody, or for nobody.
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Re:One dollar, one vote
Posted by: gus3 on August 24, 2003 10:54 PMPoint taken, but you might consider getting a username. Or not, it's your choice; just don't be surprised when people confuse you with someone else.
To criticize (call names, create satire, etc) is at the heart of political dissension.
It's one thing to criticize based on facts, quite another to call names. It's the difference between ad rem and ad hominem arguments.
The next thing you'll be saying is that the founding fathers were the most civil people in the world, they never did anything illegal and never called anyone names!
I have said, and will say no such things. I know that the Founding Fathers were contentious, loud-mouthed, stubborn hell-raisers. Anything less and we would still be British colonies.
Of course, one of the primary acts of patriotism that we talk about them committing was vandalizing a corporate freighter and tossing it's cargo overboard. Not that I disagree with that, it was a good gesture of civil disobedience.
I agree with you unreservedly.
However, compared to that, I wouldn't exactly call name-calling "stooping". It's called protected political speech, bub - live with it or shut the hell up.
Isn't that contradicting yourself? You claim the right to state your disagreement with me. I have that same right, but nowhere on this board have I told anyone to "shut the hell up," nor will I. Free speech for everybody, or for nobody.
"The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us." -- Mario Cuomo
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