Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on September 07, 2003 01:06 AM
Okay, I'll bite.
Debian is bleeding edge, if you use sid (Like I do with Morphix). There has been talk on integrating Knoppix more with Debian, and I'm hoping Debian will profit from Morphix in the long run too. However, Morphix isn't a fork: the current modules of Morphix are just from packages that are available in sid, so you could see Morphix more as a snapshot of Debian sid. With a few bugs, which is why the quality of each release differs, but generally improves.
There have been groups trying to make Debian more useful for desktop-users, like Debian-desktop (duh), but as there isn't one driving force. It's pretty much dead now. Debian-np, and other debian subprojects like it, have more perspective, as they have a goal: Make a useable desktop for Non-profit organizations. You can't get people to work on something they don't see as necessary to scratch.
Having said that, you are right that Debian needs to wake up and release more often. But without a strong leadership, you can't force 1000 people to do what you are proposing, as each of those 1000 people have different ideas on what Debian should be.
For my personal rant to try to wake up a few Debian-developers in 2001, that leaded nowhere but which contains elements of ideas in Morphix: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-<nobr>8<wbr></nobr> &threadm=002e01c15d47%2483a6ea60%240201a8c0%40jmp<nobr>u<wbr></nobr> rser.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26<nobr>i<wbr></nobr> e%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3DOdyssey%2BDebian%2Bproject%2<nobr>6<wbr></nobr> sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg
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Re:Another Debian fork should tell you something
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on September 07, 2003 01:06 AMDebian is bleeding edge, if you use sid (Like I do with Morphix). There has been talk on integrating Knoppix more with Debian, and I'm hoping Debian will profit from Morphix in the long run too. However, Morphix isn't a fork: the current modules of Morphix are just from packages that are available in sid, so you could see Morphix more as a snapshot of Debian sid. With a few bugs, which is why the quality of each release differs, but generally improves.
There have been groups trying to make Debian more useful for desktop-users, like Debian-desktop (duh), but as there isn't one driving force. It's pretty much dead now. Debian-np, and other debian subprojects like it, have more perspective, as they have a goal: Make a useable desktop for Non-profit organizations. You can't get people to work on something they don't see as necessary to scratch.
Having said that, you are right that Debian needs to wake up and release more often. But without a strong leadership, you can't force 1000 people to do what you are proposing, as each of those 1000 people have different ideas on what Debian should be.
For my personal rant to try to wake up a few Debian-developers in 2001, that leaded nowhere but which contains elements of ideas in Morphix: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-<nobr>8<wbr></nobr> &threadm=002e01c15d47%2483a6ea60%240201a8c0%40jmp<nobr>u<wbr></nobr> rser.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26<nobr>i<wbr></nobr> e%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3DOdyssey%2BDebian%2Bproject%2<nobr>6<wbr></nobr> sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg
Cheers,
Alex
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