Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on September 12, 2003 01:35 AM
> "As to the tool, it comes from Microsoft, so it's obviously a Trojan Horse"
> What warrants that conclusion?
The fact that Microsoft commissioned the product, and lock-in is Microsoft's <A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,15763,00.html" TITLE="wired.com">normal mode of operation</a wired.com>:
> "Subversion has always been our best tactic," John Ludwig, Microsoft's vice president in charge of Java development, wrote. "It leaves the competition confused, and they don't know what to shoot at anymore."
> The article states it was done at the University of Arizona _FOR_ M$. To suggest that it is a Trojan without any proof is a slander towards Dr. Collberg.
Nobody said that Dr. Collberg built the product for the purpose of being a Trojan. Nevertheless, that is how Microsoft intends to use it.
Still, I have little sympathy for Dr. Collberg. The man has chosen to work for a company that is known for its criminal activity. Since he supports criminals, he deserves no apologies.
A well-known example of a Microsoft Trojan Horse is J++. It is also one example among many of Microsoft's criminal behaviour.
The <A HREF="http://java.sun.com/lawsuit/051498.unfair.html" TITLE="sun.com">evidence in Sun's lawsuit</a sun.com> provides the following quotes from internal Microsoft documents:
Trojan Horse:
> Strategic objective [is to] kill cross-platform Java by grow[ing] the polluted Java market.
Fraud:
> At this point its [sic] not good to create MORE noise around our win32 java classes. Instead we should just quietly grow j++ share and assume that people will take advantage of our classes without ever realizing they are building win32-only java apps.
Microsoft has also been caught stealing other companys' IP (Stacker), paying Washington think tanks who then pretended to be independent, paying ISPs to break their contracts with Netscape, threatening Apple if they didn't drop Netscape, lying to the public about DR-DOS, sabotaging DR-DOS, and so on.
By now, anyone in the IT industry will be aware of Microsoft's criminal behaviour. So to Dr. Collberg there's only one thing to be said:
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Re:Evidence that Freedom is Growing
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on September 12, 2003 01:35 AM> What warrants that conclusion?
The fact that Microsoft commissioned the product, and lock-in is Microsoft's <A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,15763,00.html" TITLE="wired.com">normal mode of operation</a wired.com>:
> "Subversion has always been our best tactic," John Ludwig, Microsoft's vice president in charge of Java development, wrote. "It leaves the competition confused, and they don't know what to shoot at anymore."
> The article states it was done at the University of Arizona _FOR_ M$. To suggest that it is a Trojan without any proof is a slander towards Dr. Collberg.
Nobody said that Dr. Collberg built the product for the purpose of being a Trojan. Nevertheless, that is how Microsoft intends to use it.
Still, I have little sympathy for Dr. Collberg. The man has chosen to work for a company that is known for its criminal activity. Since he supports criminals, he deserves no apologies.
A well-known example of a Microsoft Trojan Horse is J++. It is also one example among many of Microsoft's criminal behaviour.
The <A HREF="http://java.sun.com/lawsuit/051498.unfair.html" TITLE="sun.com">evidence in Sun's lawsuit</a sun.com> provides the following quotes from internal Microsoft documents:
Trojan Horse:
> Strategic objective [is to] kill cross-platform Java by grow[ing] the polluted Java market.
Fraud:
> At this point its [sic] not good to create MORE noise around our win32 java classes. Instead we should just quietly grow j++ share and assume that people will take advantage of our classes without ever realizing they are building win32-only java apps.
Microsoft has also been caught stealing other companys' IP (Stacker), paying Washington think tanks who then pretended to be independent, paying ISPs to break their contracts with Netscape, threatening Apple if they didn't drop Netscape, lying to the public about DR-DOS, sabotaging DR-DOS, and so on.
By now, anyone in the IT industry will be aware of Microsoft's criminal behaviour. So to Dr. Collberg there's only one thing to be said:
If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
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