Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on December 17, 2003 03:27 AM
This is my response to Amy Reynolds, "Themes get under my skin" article at osviews.com. In the 100 most read archive. I included just a few specifics. By the way, the article is a good read.
Perhaps a standing survey (one that doesn't scroll into oblivion in 4 hours) sponsored by NewsForge to flesh out some of the specific gripes and ideas for improvements would help this project apeal to more people. I don't know about the rest of you, but I was keenly interested in the Java desktop, hoping they would work some magic to the Gnome desktop, but they did basicaly nothing.
Re: Show us your Farfegnugen! (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Sep 06, 2003 - 09:53 PM I agree with you (this articles author) in one basic point. Idealy, all of the Linux desktop environments would be somewhat more universal in the way they act and feel. But! At this point, none of them are even close to mature. Even stable released versions are still (at least feature wise) beta software. You mentions Gnome as the team that's going in the right direction. Well consider this. Pick what you feel is the absolute worst (bugs you to beat hell) feature of the present version of Gnome. Next, the head of the gnome team reads your article, agrees with your assesment, and proceeds to hard code forever your most hated feature. Ouch! I for one don't and won't use Gnome because some of the already hard coded features are, as you put it "garbage". Example: Could they possibly have wasted more precious desktop area than the layout of the location,menu,and button bars in galeon? Huge empty gray areas that don't need to be there. The menu and button bar could easily be nested together on one bar which would then eliminate an entire (space wasting) bar. You mention limiting mouse-scrubbing. Why then are the forward, back and up navigation arrows on the extreme left of the button bar. Any high school math student or tennis player could tell you that the optimum (shortest scrub distance) placement for these nav buttons would be in the center of the lower most bar. I use these examples to ilustrate that now, just isn't the time to start hard coding everthing. To remove any of the tweaking function at this stage of Linux desktop developement would be counter productive. The desktop developement proccess is extremely well served by this abundance of tweaking options. Just consider them desktop beta testing tools. If you want to use your design talents for the Linux community. A well laid out, single window, Video player front end for Mplayer and/or Xine are urgently needed. Those DVD player front ends are again as you say "garbage". Plus it would be a great show place to demonstrate your version of " Farfegnugen".
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on December 17, 2003 03:27 AMPerhaps a standing survey (one that doesn't scroll into oblivion in 4 hours) sponsored by NewsForge to flesh out some of the specific gripes and ideas for improvements would help this project apeal to more people. I don't know about the rest of you, but I was keenly interested in the Java desktop, hoping they would work some magic to the Gnome desktop, but they did basicaly nothing.
Re: Show us your Farfegnugen! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sep 06, 2003 - 09:53 PM
I agree with you (this articles author) in one basic point. Idealy, all of the Linux desktop environments would be somewhat more universal in the way they act and feel. But! At this point, none of them are even close to mature. Even stable released versions are still (at least feature wise) beta software. You mentions Gnome as the team that's going in the right direction. Well consider this. Pick what you feel is the absolute worst (bugs you to beat hell) feature of the present version of Gnome. Next, the head of the gnome team reads your article, agrees with your assesment, and proceeds to hard code forever your most hated feature. Ouch! I for one don't and won't use Gnome because some of the already hard coded features are, as you put it "garbage". Example: Could they possibly have wasted more precious desktop area than the layout of the location,menu,and button bars in galeon? Huge empty gray areas that don't need to be there. The menu and button bar could easily be nested together on one bar which would then eliminate an entire (space wasting) bar. You mention limiting mouse-scrubbing. Why then are the forward, back and up navigation arrows on the extreme left of the button bar. Any high school math student or tennis player could tell you that the optimum (shortest scrub distance) placement for these nav buttons would be in the center of the lower most bar. I use these examples to ilustrate that now, just isn't the time to start hard coding everthing. To remove any of the tweaking function at this stage of Linux desktop developement would be counter productive. The desktop developement proccess is extremely well served by this abundance of tweaking options. Just consider them desktop beta testing tools. If you want to use your design talents for the Linux community. A well laid out, single window, Video player front end for Mplayer and/or Xine are urgently needed. Those DVD player front ends are again as you say "garbage". Plus it would be a great show place to demonstrate your version of "
Farfegnugen".
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