Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on February 13, 2004 07:17 AM
Daniel,
OOo for GNU/Linux users is certainly a godsend. But it isn't "all that".
OOo may have much better file compatibility with MS Office than StarOffice 5.2 did, than Abiword does, and than Kword/Koffice does. But there are major problems with it as well.
I'm no programmer, but a few F/OSS programmers I know, some with over 20 years experience programming, and who started early with Linux and with GNU, have stated that the OOo code is a mess. Kludge upon kludge upon kludge. And they gave examples, but I didn't memorize them.
What I can tell you from personal experience though, is that OOo is an absolute dead weight. It takes an unacceptable amount of resources to start it, and to run it. And this is after all the optimization tricks. And this includes the latest version.
While the resource issue will be less and less of an issue going forward as processors get faster and memory gets cheaper, this should not be the solution. The solution is to fix the code. Pre-loading is not the solution either.
And this isn't my major issue. My issue is that I get BSOD's, OOo style. I get illegal operation window popups, with OOo exiting immediately thereafter. This has caused the BSOD nightmares to return. While I've figured out a few of the illegal operation popups are related to permissions when writing/saving a file, there is absolutely no excuse for this. Usually the data is recoverable, but sometimes it is not.
No excuse.
We can argue the merits over features (and they are getting better), but the resource issue and the illegal operation (I remember the illegal part, but maybe operation is another word, can't think of it right now, I think operation is correct) issue are major unresolved problems. These issues need to be fixed now, not taking on new features.
And btw, pdf export? Big deal. Other FS programs had it before OOo. Let's bring out the party favors when I can import a pdf, edit it, and then export it.
Of course, I must also state, thanks to everyone who have contributed to OOo, you've made it possible to co-exist with the MS Office world, and you've made it possible to take on MS on the desktop. Thanks to all contributors, including you Daniel.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 13, 2004 07:17 AMOOo for GNU/Linux users is certainly a godsend. But it isn't "all that".
OOo may have much better file compatibility with MS Office than StarOffice 5.2 did, than Abiword does, and than Kword/Koffice does. But there are major problems with it as well.
I'm no programmer, but a few F/OSS programmers I know, some with over 20 years experience programming, and who started early with Linux and with GNU, have stated that the OOo code is a mess. Kludge upon kludge upon kludge. And they gave examples, but I didn't memorize them.
What I can tell you from personal experience though, is that OOo is an absolute dead weight. It takes an unacceptable amount of resources to start it, and to run it. And this is after all the optimization tricks. And this includes the latest version.
While the resource issue will be less and less of an issue going forward as processors get faster and memory gets cheaper, this should not be the solution. The solution is to fix the code. Pre-loading is not the solution either.
And this isn't my major issue. My issue is that I get BSOD's, OOo style. I get illegal operation window popups, with OOo exiting immediately thereafter. This has caused the BSOD nightmares to return. While I've figured out a few of the illegal operation popups are related to permissions when writing/saving a file, there is absolutely no excuse for this. Usually the data is recoverable, but sometimes it is not.
No excuse.
We can argue the merits over features (and they are getting better), but the resource issue and the illegal operation (I remember the illegal part, but maybe operation is another word, can't think of it right now, I think operation is correct) issue are major unresolved problems. These issues need to be fixed now, not taking on new features.
And btw, pdf export? Big deal. Other FS programs had it before OOo. Let's bring out the party favors when I can import a pdf, edit it, and then export it.
Of course, I must also state, thanks to everyone who have contributed to OOo, you've made it possible to co-exist with the MS Office world, and you've made it possible to take on MS on the desktop. Thanks to all contributors, including you Daniel.
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