Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on February 20, 2004 02:55 PM
I am not a RH user and I could never figure out what was so attractive about their products For me It's many of the reasons I listed before. They wrote anaconda (which debian uses) kudzu (which debian/knoppix uses) NPTL (sent upstream to 2.6 kernel which took it from 2,000 threads, to 50,000 threads) They maintain GCC, RPM, GTK+, freedesktop.org, wrote orbit, exec-shield (which debian now has) If fact the guys who packaged exec-shield and SElinux for Debian are Red Hat employees. They bought out sistina and GPL'd the previously closed code. You can see what I'm getting at. They do alot for everyone and do not attempt to screw over the competition. They also pay some of the top kernel hackers. It's just always at the forefront of everything linux. To me they are the best, Maybe cause i've used it so long and know so much about it I'm not aware of other distros making nearly this much of a controbution.
I know about Mandrake. I didn't want to say they have buggy code since I can not give experiences first hand, but we've all heard the rumors. Word is they are shipping mdk10 with 2.6 kernel, that surely is not going to be stable I guarntee it.
Debian Is fine too. They all are good enough, thing with me is. Why switch if I'm happy? You'll notice most of us Red Hat users are not usually as religeous about getting people to use our distro as much as Debian/Gentoo people are. We say if you like it great. I hope you enjoy it but let me use mine without hearing a speech.
This last part is just my opinion and I may be wrong but in the future I expect Debian to be left behind and I'll tell you why. 2.6 kernel is no longer a hacker/geek box. It out performs BSD, Solaris, Windows in quite a number of important benchmarks. So people are going to start buying it. That money will go to companies like Red Hat and SuSe who will pour months of 24/7 development into ideas, they will be the ones making the break throughs, they will be the ones innovating and the other distros will have the appearance of being along for the ride (taking redhat/suse's code and putting it in thier distro). It has already begun if you look close, Look at how many products are made by red hat the distro's use daily. Debian has had some great ideas and will continue to but I don't see them keeping up pace with distro's who have fulltime programmers working on things 24 hours a day. Unless everyone who codes for Debian quits thier jobs and codes for free or they become commercial thus pissing off %95 of debians user base and voiding thier social contracts.
Again, Just my opinion and a 'guess' as to what I think may happen.
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Re:broaden your horizons my friends
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 20, 2004 02:55 PMFor me It's many of the reasons I listed before. They wrote anaconda (which debian uses)
kudzu (which debian/knoppix uses)
NPTL (sent upstream to 2.6 kernel which took it from 2,000 threads, to 50,000 threads)
They maintain GCC, RPM, GTK+, freedesktop.org, wrote orbit, exec-shield (which debian now has) If fact the guys who packaged exec-shield and SElinux for Debian are Red Hat employees. They bought out sistina and GPL'd the previously closed code. You can see what I'm getting at. They do alot for everyone and do not attempt to screw over the competition. They also pay some of the top kernel hackers. It's just always at the forefront of everything linux. To me they are the best, Maybe cause i've used it so long and know so much about it I'm not aware of other distros making nearly this much of a controbution.
I know about Mandrake. I didn't want to say they have buggy code since I can not give experiences first hand, but we've all heard the rumors. Word is they are shipping mdk10 with 2.6 kernel, that surely is not going to be stable I guarntee it.
Debian Is fine too. They all are good enough, thing with me is. Why switch if I'm happy? You'll notice most of us Red Hat users are not usually as religeous about getting people to use our distro as much as Debian/Gentoo people are. We say if you like it great. I hope you enjoy it but let me use mine without hearing a speech.
This last part is just my opinion and I may be wrong but in the future I expect Debian to be left behind and I'll tell you why. 2.6 kernel is no longer a hacker/geek box. It out performs BSD, Solaris, Windows in quite a number of important benchmarks. So people are going to start buying it. That money will go to companies like Red Hat and SuSe who will pour months of 24/7 development into ideas, they will be the ones making the break throughs, they will be the ones innovating and the other distros will have the appearance of being along for the ride (taking redhat/suse's code and putting it in thier distro). It has already begun if you look close, Look at how many products are made by red hat the distro's use daily. Debian has had some great ideas and will continue to but I don't see them keeping up pace with distro's who have fulltime programmers working on things 24 hours a day. Unless everyone who codes for Debian quits thier jobs and codes for free or they become commercial thus pissing off %95 of debians user base and voiding thier social contracts.
Again, Just my opinion and a 'guess' as to what I think may happen.
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