Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 25, 2004 02:44 AM
What if I want to use Lotus Approach, Lotus WordPro, and Lotus 123, but want to port these for my home use? Can I pay some developer to do it for me.
I am a fanatical user of Lotus SmartSuite for the applications I named above. I am finding it incomprehensible, selfish, maddening, and supremely heretical that IBM would NOT make Lotus (or that Lotus would NOT voluntarily) port Lotus SmartSuite to work sufficiently on Linux that the OpenSource community could jump onboard and help it along so IBM/Lotus could then get back to other projects requiring the labor that initially would be diverted to the OpenSuite (something I call an Open Source version of SmartSuite) project.
I find it curious that Sun could approach IBM and proffer Java conversions and knick-knacks for IBM. IBM should either openly counter this and say, "Well, hell, WE have SmartSuite; all we need to do is rip out the proprietary stuff we don't own but are licensing; we will tap and contribute to the OSDN/OSDL/GNU/GPL/LGPL community for their assistance. We'll just freely decompile our app, eviscerate it of the proprietary CRAP the jerks who own it won't let us port to Linux (assuming the the purported "internal evaluation" IBM did circa 1999 to study the viability/efficacy of porting SmartSuite to Linux, something I think COULD be done, but is politically, internally, myopically, obscenely squashed by some band of ms acolytes contaminating IBM's ranks... but that's another venemous thread...) and then we'll have no need for Sun...
On the other hand, if Sun and IBM would get off the can or whatever other tubular probiscus is holding them in traction and just start deploying for testing any critical pieces and widgets that will be folded back into OpenSuite and start putting that ms company on notice, then other businesses to lazy to explore SmartSuite, or too "locked-in" to ms office could then credibly, realistically, and sensibly begin to pass down this edict:
"NO MORE non-portable ms features are to be tuned into our internal or commercial/redistributable projects or products. The less mired in ms we are, the more flexible, safe, and less bug-ridden will be our code (or, any other plausible or emotional spurt you want to embed here)..."
But, NO, I guess I will have to, like many others, suffer the myopia and purported "non-beneficial-proposition" arguments of others who simply NEVER honestly, genuinely even TRIED to use Approach, WordPro, and 1-2-3. That they havent' or that IBM/Lotus haven't been made to feel pain for their constant ignoring of the demands to port is a testament that IBM is NOT yet really interested in supporting the Linux desktop move. I guess that will go to Suse, HP and a few others.
C'mon, IBM, it's time to get Peoplesoft or whatever HR tool you're using and reevaluate your developers and managers' profiles, ascribe a threat assessment to them as to how much internal stymying and other damage they could cause, and snap them into shape or release them for hamstringing and non-alignment with your purported public statements about supporting Linux.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 25, 2004 02:44 AMI am a fanatical user of Lotus SmartSuite for the applications I named above. I am finding it incomprehensible, selfish, maddening, and supremely heretical that IBM would NOT make Lotus (or that Lotus would NOT voluntarily) port Lotus SmartSuite to work sufficiently on Linux that the OpenSource community could jump onboard and help it along so IBM/Lotus could then get back to other projects requiring the labor that initially would be diverted to the OpenSuite (something I call an Open Source version of SmartSuite) project.
I find it curious that Sun could approach IBM and proffer Java conversions and knick-knacks for IBM. IBM should either openly counter this and say, "Well, hell, WE have SmartSuite; all we need to do is rip out the proprietary stuff we don't own but are licensing; we will tap and contribute to the OSDN/OSDL/GNU/GPL/LGPL community for their assistance. We'll just freely decompile our app, eviscerate it of the proprietary CRAP the jerks who own it won't let us port to Linux (assuming the the purported "internal evaluation" IBM did circa 1999 to study the viability/efficacy of porting SmartSuite to Linux, something I think COULD be done, but is politically, internally, myopically, obscenely squashed by some band of ms acolytes contaminating IBM's ranks... but that's another venemous thread...) and then we'll have no need for Sun...
On the other hand, if Sun and IBM would get off the can or whatever other tubular probiscus is holding them in traction and just start deploying for testing any critical pieces and widgets that will be folded back into OpenSuite and start putting that ms company on notice, then other businesses to lazy to explore SmartSuite, or too "locked-in" to ms office could then credibly, realistically, and sensibly begin to pass down this edict:
"NO MORE non-portable ms features are to be tuned into our internal or commercial/redistributable projects or products. The less mired in ms we are, the more flexible, safe, and less bug-ridden will be our code (or, any other plausible or emotional spurt you want to embed here)..."
But, NO, I guess I will have to, like many others, suffer the myopia and purported "non-beneficial-proposition" arguments of others who simply NEVER honestly, genuinely even TRIED to use Approach, WordPro, and 1-2-3. That they havent' or that IBM/Lotus haven't been made to feel pain for their constant ignoring of the demands to port is a testament that IBM is NOT yet really interested in supporting the Linux desktop move. I guess that will go to Suse, HP and a few others.
C'mon, IBM, it's time to get Peoplesoft or whatever HR tool you're using and reevaluate your developers and managers' profiles, ascribe a threat assessment to them as to how much internal stymying and other damage they could cause, and snap them into shape or release them for hamstringing and non-alignment with your purported public statements about supporting Linux.
Sheesh,
David Syes
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