Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 19, 2005 05:29 PM
and so is any company that makes the mistake of adopting Sun for their enterprise, be it Solaris, or Linux on Sun.
The only thing one can expect in relying on Sun for their computing infrastructure is that if you continue to resist Linux and adopt or stay with Solaris, you will be choosing a company that is dropping down the ladder in sales and number of units every quarter. Every quarter. Dell has surpassed them in number of units, and depending on the analyst, Dell has surpassed them this past quarter, or will surpass them this current quarter in revenue.
What I'd like to see is the massive discounting and deal-making that went on during the last few weeks prior to the quarter closing (posted in 11/04, so prior quarter to that date) where Scott and Jonathan went apeshit trying to boost the numbers to make sure they didn't close the quarter with another quarter of declining revenue. Props. They made it with a couple of million to spare. That's why they make the big money.
What hasn't changed is that Sun continues to regard Linux as a jalopy. And their plan of attack is to sow FUD about Red Hat, the distro company with the highest market share in the US (as has been made even clearer in recent weeks/months), and close to the highest or the highest in Europe and other markets. And to sow FUD about IBM because they are using the Red Hat distro in the majority of their computer sales (again, as has been made clearer in their more recent attacks on IBM and this alliance thing with EDS and Microsoft against IBM). If Suse/Novell were the market leaders, every comment they'd be making right now would be attacking and sowing FUD about Suse/Novell instead of Red Hat.
What hasn't changed is that Sun is going to continue selling Linux if customers really, really, really want it. And once they succeed in drawing you into their web, they will be continually trying to upsell (in their own minds) you to Solaris.
Open source Solaris? Where is it? Oh, later. Right. (had to come out with their own new license because of how distasteful the GPL was to them, and now the same move with Java). Let's look at a few other open source examples. We have BSD which is going nowhere under a BSD license (sorry BSD users). And we have Apple. Great OS for schools. Great for mom.
Solaris will never be released with a GPL license (was I right, or was I right? Or was I right?). And because of that, Solaris is doomed to failure. GNU/Linux is unstoppable. GNU/Linux is the juggernaut, and Scott and Jonathan are the pavement that GNU/Linux will ride over. Hopefully Sun's employees won't ride the Sun jalopy into the ground. Now's the time to refresh those resumes. Now's the time to start making phone calls. Because if you wait for another mass layoff the next time Sun is in danger of screwing up a quarter (prediction: more bad news soon), you'll be competing with your co-workers for the same jobs. The GNU/Linux community will welcome you into the fold, since we've stolen millions of lines of code from the same code base that Sun used, so we're hacking the same code. The door is still open. Don't wait too long. Sun is doomed, and you know it. You've got to face the facts. The world is adopting GNU/Linux, not Solaris. Double digit increases every quarter for years. And going forward it will be the same thing. For years. Don't wait. When you get home today, start working on that resume. Start looking for phone numbers. Start making calls. Scott and Jonathan are already set for life. Are you? If not, don't wait for destiny. Make your own destiny. A job at Sun was good while it lasted. And will be great on your resume. Unless/until Sun implodes on further declining revenue, further declining unit shipments, further declining market share, further declining profits. What kind of respect will Sun have when Fujitsu overtakes them?
Now's the time, Sun engineers. Pick up the phone and make the move to the GNU/Linux community. Do it. Today. It will be the greatest move you've ever made.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 19, 2005 05:29 PMThe only thing one can expect in relying on Sun for their computing infrastructure is that if you continue to resist Linux and adopt or stay with Solaris, you will be choosing a company that is dropping down the ladder in sales and number of units every quarter. Every quarter. Dell has surpassed them in number of units, and depending on the analyst, Dell has surpassed them this past quarter, or will surpass them this current quarter in revenue.
What I'd like to see is the massive discounting and deal-making that went on during the last few weeks prior to the quarter closing (posted in 11/04, so prior quarter to that date) where Scott and Jonathan went apeshit trying to boost the numbers to make sure they didn't close the quarter with another quarter of declining revenue. Props. They made it with a couple of million to spare. That's why they make the big money.
What hasn't changed is that Sun continues to regard Linux as a jalopy. And their plan of attack is to sow FUD about Red Hat, the distro company with the highest market share in the US (as has been made even clearer in recent weeks/months), and close to the highest or the highest in Europe and other markets. And to sow FUD about IBM because they are using the Red Hat distro in the majority of their computer sales (again, as has been made clearer in their more recent attacks on IBM and this alliance thing with EDS and Microsoft against IBM). If Suse/Novell were the market leaders, every comment they'd be making right now would be attacking and sowing FUD about Suse/Novell instead of Red Hat.
What hasn't changed is that Sun is going to continue selling Linux if customers really, really, really want it. And once they succeed in drawing you into their web, they will be continually trying to upsell (in their own minds) you to Solaris.
Open source Solaris? Where is it? Oh, later. Right. (had to come out with their own new license because of how distasteful the GPL was to them, and now the same move with Java). Let's look at a few other open source examples. We have BSD which is going nowhere under a BSD license (sorry BSD users). And we have Apple. Great OS for schools. Great for mom.
Solaris will never be released with a GPL license (was I right, or was I right? Or was I right?). And because of that, Solaris is doomed to failure. GNU/Linux is unstoppable. GNU/Linux is the juggernaut, and Scott and Jonathan are the pavement that GNU/Linux will ride over. Hopefully Sun's employees won't ride the Sun jalopy into the ground. Now's the time to refresh those resumes. Now's the time to start making phone calls. Because if you wait for another mass layoff the next time Sun is in danger of screwing up a quarter (prediction: more bad news soon), you'll be competing with your co-workers for the same jobs. The GNU/Linux community will welcome you into the fold, since we've stolen millions of lines of code from the same code base that Sun used, so we're hacking the same code. The door is still open. Don't wait too long. Sun is doomed, and you know it. You've got to face the facts. The world is adopting GNU/Linux, not Solaris. Double digit increases every quarter for years. And going forward it will be the same thing. For years. Don't wait. When you get home today, start working on that resume. Start looking for phone numbers. Start making calls. Scott and Jonathan are already set for life. Are you? If not, don't wait for destiny. Make your own destiny. A job at Sun was good while it lasted. And will be great on your resume. Unless/until Sun implodes on further declining revenue, further declining unit shipments, further declining market share, further declining profits. What kind of respect will Sun have when Fujitsu overtakes them?
Now's the time, Sun engineers. Pick up the phone and make the move to the GNU/Linux community. Do it. Today. It will be the greatest move you've ever made.
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