Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 29, 2005 05:19 PM
Java is the easiest truly cross-platform (Windows, UNIX, and more) development tool
Damn wintel people, you don't know what you say. Eat more sun marketing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but have you ever tryed java 1.5 on a non Linux/solaris/windows OS ? on a non x86/sparc/sparc64 hardware ? no ? now give the same test to perl, ruby or python and see what cross-platform means.
And no, kaffee, ikvm and other free alternatives don't do the trick, mostly because devs like you (assuming "Sun's jdk/jre is portable since sun claimed it is") do never try to keep they're code compatible with them.
That's the point here. Java devs often says they're favorable to foss, but they don't make the minimal effort to keep they work compatible with foss (similarly to website designers making ie-only sites, some years ago).
So you're wondering why foss community don't accept java insertion on they -otherwise java free- free software ? Why foss people don't like java developers ?
And c'mon, if it took a bunch of red hat engeneers (including they're gcc/gcj specialists) to make the thing work under gcj, there is no chance for a mere mortal to succeed here.
Those who claim Mono has some leg up *really* need to get real
You're right there. But, once again, damn wintel man, be aknowledged that there are more alternatives than just java and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.net.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 29, 2005 05:19 PMDamn wintel people, you don't know what you say. Eat more sun marketing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but have you ever tryed java 1.5 on a non Linux/solaris/windows OS ? on a non x86/sparc/sparc64 hardware ? no ? now give the same test to perl, ruby or python and see what cross-platform means.
And no, kaffee, ikvm and other free alternatives don't do the trick, mostly because devs like you (assuming "Sun's jdk/jre is portable since sun claimed it is") do never try to keep they're code compatible with them.
That's the point here. Java devs often says they're favorable to foss, but they don't make the minimal effort to keep they work compatible with foss (similarly to website designers making ie-only sites, some years ago).
So you're wondering why foss community don't accept java insertion on they -otherwise java free- free software ? Why foss people don't like java developers ?
And c'mon, if it took a bunch of red hat engeneers (including they're gcc/gcj specialists) to make the thing work under gcj, there is no chance for a mere mortal to succeed here.
Those who claim Mono has some leg up *really* need to get real
You're right there. But, once again, damn wintel man, be aknowledged that there are more alternatives than just java and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.net.
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