Re:Source-based is univeral, nothing else really i
Posted by: Stumbles
on November 11, 2005 08:55 PM
Well that's fine if you want everything to live in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local. Except for a few, nearly every source tarball I've seen uses a default prefix of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local. And I should qualify that by saying source tarballs from the original authors. Not ones that might have been massaged by whatever distro.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. IMO it's a decision that should be left up to distro maintainers.
So what a universal installer would have to account for is all the different places applications live, which can and are distro specific including binary and source disrtos.
And what if I wanted to use gcc-4.0.0 instead of 3.4.4 on a source based distro? What then? That one thing and deciding to use glibc with nptl instead of linuxthreads would be a monumental headache for a do all package maintainer.
It would also have to setup a build system for source bases distros. And the build system for Gentoo is not the same as used by Lunar-Linux, which it not the same as used by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...... another.
It would be a huge monumental task. For what gain? Little that I can see. Not that I'm a distro, um, ahem lady of the evening. But I have used several and find all their package maintainers like urpmi, etc works as advertised. The only real difficulty I've had using them (ones I'm not familiar with) is finding the application name in the GUI menus and perhaps setting up additional repositories.
Right now the only real suggestion I would like to see across all distro and desktop managers is a consistency between menus. That IMO would be more useful.
None of those problems screams to me there should be one universal do all app. This suggestion to me sounds like an obtuse attempt or at least obfuscated attempt to create one distro.
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Re:Source-based is univeral, nothing else really i
Posted by: Stumbles on November 11, 2005 08:55 PMNot that there's anything wrong with that. IMO it's a decision that should be left up to distro maintainers.
So what a universal installer would have to account for is all the different places applications live, which can and are distro specific including binary and source disrtos.
And what if I wanted to use gcc-4.0.0 instead of 3.4.4 on a source based distro? What then? That one thing and deciding to use glibc with nptl instead of linuxthreads would be a monumental headache for a do all package maintainer.
It would also have to setup a build system for source bases distros. And the build system for Gentoo is not the same as used by Lunar-Linux, which it not the same as used by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...... another.
It would be a huge monumental task. For what gain? Little that I can see. Not that I'm a distro, um, ahem lady of the evening. But I have used several and find all their package maintainers like urpmi, etc works as advertised. The only real difficulty I've had using them (ones I'm not familiar with) is finding the application name in the GUI menus and perhaps setting up additional repositories.
Right now the only real suggestion I would like to see across all distro and desktop managers is a consistency between menus. That IMO would be more useful.
None of those problems screams to me there should be one universal do all app. This suggestion to me sounds like an obtuse attempt or at least obfuscated attempt to create one distro.
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