Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on November 12, 2005 01:19 AM
although a scientific theory can be proved false, it can never be proved true. So anyone who proclaims---as Galileo did---that a scientific theory is actually a truth ends up making the same mistake that Galileo did. As the human understanding of political and expressive freedom has developed over time, we can see now that the Church erred in her suppression of Galileo's ideas. Still, Galileo was wrong about the nature of a scientific theory, and the Church was right to denounce his flawed exposition, even if she went too far in terms of disciplinary action
Typical jesuitic rant designed to "frame" the issue in such a matter as to justify Papist actions.
The point if, of course, that no scientific theory of any kind ever claims to express the "Truth" in the ontological sense of "aletheia" or "'emet". A scientific theory is considered as true by default as long as it explains that which is observed. Period. The Papacy (which is not the "Church" with a capical "C" but only a heretical split-off of the true Church) is simply not qualified to express judgements about what scientist do or do not observe. Not at the times of Galileo, not today. The proper role of the Church (which the Papacy aims at impersonating) is to proclaim revealed eternal Truths and their correct interpretation, and not worry whether at any one given moment in time these Truths happen to agree or not with the prevailing social fads or even scientific observations.
The Papacy, in its self-aggrandizing manner, thought that it could meddle in everything and anything, politics, economics, arts and, of course, science. All this, of course, ad majorem Dei gloriam even if it committed more henious crimes in the process that all pagans or atheists taken together.
Your attempts at justifying the treatment of Galileo is sickening to any Christian or scientifically-inclined person.
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typical jesuitic rant
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 12, 2005 01:19 AMTypical jesuitic rant designed to "frame" the issue in such a matter as to justify Papist actions.
The point if, of course, that no scientific theory of any kind ever claims to express the "Truth" in the ontological sense of "aletheia" or "'emet". A scientific theory is considered as true by default as long as it explains that which is observed. Period. The Papacy (which is not the "Church" with a capical "C" but only a heretical split-off of the true Church) is simply not qualified to express judgements about what scientist do or do not observe. Not at the times of Galileo, not today. The proper role of the Church (which the Papacy aims at impersonating) is to proclaim revealed eternal Truths and their correct interpretation, and not worry whether at any one given moment in time these Truths happen to agree or not with the prevailing social fads or even scientific observations.
The Papacy, in its self-aggrandizing manner, thought that it could meddle in everything and anything, politics, economics, arts and, of course, science. All this, of course, ad majorem Dei gloriam even if it committed more henious crimes in the process that all pagans or atheists taken together.
Your attempts at justifying the treatment of Galileo is sickening to any Christian or scientifically-inclined person.
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