The button went RED and he updated. Oops- MIstake?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 01, 2006 12:49 AM
Yep - The button went RED, clicked on the Red Button, went in as root, and the update process begain and OF COURSE he updated! And most likely he did move to a new kernel! We have all seen this popup as SuSE users before! But, to a new user what does it mean (it is pretty cryptic to understand, when you don't have a clue to begin with) So - thus the problem? Linux developers tend to misunderstand the lenghts they need to go to in order to hand hold their lowest common denominator user.
One of the advantages of SuSE 9.3 at the time was the Novell company and the update support. However, this shows, that with Novell SuSE as a desktop (with Novell fully behind it), that even with these updates, it seems that one can get confused very easily and thus can get into trouble (if one is "only a novice/average non-geek user")!
I can hammer around and fix almost anything (note: I alpha/beta tested a version of UNIX from Microport systems back int he early 1990s that had a DOS application ability... so. But, in order to really look at how well LINUX is doing on the desktop one has to be looking at it from behind the eyes of the new user moving from Windows to see what the issues of the migration really are!
I have used this friend as a tester (albiet with the dual boot bail out, and with two hard drives one with Windows and the other with LINUX that are accessed from the DELL bios drive boot selector, so that by just pulling the LINUX had drive out he is running on a pure DELL install so that their support does not freak out).
Lots of folks have been saying that once you install LINUX and everything is running that you can just walk away. However, we now see that this is not true... and by ignoring or slamming those who say different then the LINUX desktop will not grow into mainstream use. The devil is always in the details.
I have used this friend as a willing platform tester, before I got into a mess by installing LINUX (1st choice would be SuSE, but thinking about Ubuntu) for others who I know who are of the same user level. It would seem that if someone elected a new kernel update that a report on all versions of the applications would be given to allow one to consider what it would break before hand.
Hmmm, does the Ubuntu updater also do this? The buzz is that it handles the update problems much better than anything else! Novell Suse bought the Ximain Red Carpet and renamed it... is this only available as an update tool for enterprise users (vs the SuSE 9.3 and 10.x users)? Would Red Carpet work as well to fix apps if an update to a kernel were requested by a beginner user such as this?
What is the comparison between the old Ximain Red Carpet updater and the Ubuntu and Edubuntu Updater... will they both handle kernel updates gracefully?
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The button went RED and he updated. Oops- MIstake?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 01, 2006 12:49 AMOne of the advantages of SuSE 9.3 at the time was the Novell company and the update support. However, this shows, that with Novell SuSE as a desktop (with Novell fully behind it), that even with these updates, it seems that one can get confused very easily and thus can get into trouble (if one is "only a novice/average non-geek user")!
I can hammer around and fix almost anything (note: I alpha/beta tested a version of UNIX from Microport systems back int he early 1990s that had a DOS application ability... so. But, in order to really look at how well LINUX is doing on the desktop one has to be looking at it from behind the eyes of the new user moving from Windows to see what the issues of the migration really are!
I have used this friend as a tester (albiet with the dual boot bail out, and with two hard drives one with Windows and the other with LINUX that are accessed from the DELL bios drive boot selector, so that by just pulling the LINUX had drive out he is running on a pure DELL install so that their support does not freak out).
Lots of folks have been saying that once you install LINUX and everything is running that you can just walk away. However, we now see that this is not true... and by ignoring or slamming those who say different then the LINUX desktop will not grow into mainstream use. The devil is always in the details.
I have used this friend as a willing platform tester, before I got into a mess by installing LINUX (1st choice would be SuSE, but thinking about Ubuntu) for others who I know who are of the same user level. It would seem that if someone elected a new kernel update that a report on all versions of the applications would be given to allow one to consider what it would break before hand.
Hmmm, does the Ubuntu updater also do this? The buzz is that it handles the update problems much better than anything else! Novell Suse bought the Ximain Red Carpet and renamed it... is this only available as an update tool for enterprise users (vs the SuSE 9.3 and 10.x users)? Would Red Carpet work as well to fix apps if an update to a kernel were requested by a beginner user such as this?
What is the comparison between the old Ximain Red Carpet updater and the Ubuntu and Edubuntu Updater... will they both handle kernel updates gracefully?
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