Re:Seriously,... isn't trying very hard, if at all
Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 01, 2006 02:39 AM
We should not be having to try that hard... that is the point. Plug and Play. What does the consmer want. GO out on the stree and ask that question to the first 50 people you meet and ask what they are looking for in a software product.
They will want one thing....
ONE WORD:
VALUE...!
Hey, when they got Ximain and SuSE, Novell bought most of the stack they needed. But, the feeling out here is that they are reserving the "goodies" for their enterprise level deployments. The lure of the Ubuntu Manifesto (see the site) is the reason for the interest.
I would stay with SuSE (as I am using it now), but I hate it when I spend money for something, and I spend other people's money as they buy what I tell them to buy, and as a result one discovers that we end up with only a fraction of what one could expect in the market these days).
APPLE! MICROSOFT!
Hey, it is 2006, not 1989. You can not even mention Novell SuSE in the same breath as these two players (feature wise out of the box)!
Windows was invented along time ago... Xerox, Apple, Microsoft,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and we are still forcing folks to use the command line? If SuSE want to rise above it all and they can. Then, they gotta lift their offering to at least the equal of what Microsoft or Apple offers out of the box. Consumers will pay for features! We do every day when we go with a double buger, extras on our vehicles we buy, etc. FEATURES RULE. SuSE needs a better and more complete feature list (in order to get away with what they are charging retail)!
Otherwise - I we gotta load our own multi-media, hack at the command line, risk unstable updates, why not use the lower overhead to produce Ubuntu?
I am looking for a small business replacement for Windows... and from what I have seen so far, we need more applications, and SOLID SUPPORT for the term of the offered support in the marketing literature. I don't see Ubuntu as the answer as there is a question about support over the long haul. Shuttlworth is scratching his head about that one... and maybe his model will be interesting in a few years once there is a track record. SuSE has Ubuntu beaten in several areas... BRAND IS ONE BIG ONE.
Novell has got the stack. They got the interest of the consumer! Novell already has a long and respected track record. Now they need to sing the song that everyone wants to buy.
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Re:Seriously,... isn't trying very hard, if at all
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 01, 2006 02:39 AMThey will want one thing....
ONE WORD:
VALUE...!
Hey, when they got Ximain and SuSE, Novell bought most of the stack they needed. But, the feeling out here is that they are reserving the "goodies" for their enterprise level deployments. The lure of the Ubuntu Manifesto (see the site) is the reason for the interest.
I would stay with SuSE (as I am using it now), but I hate it when I spend money for something, and I spend other people's money as they buy what I tell them to buy, and as a result one discovers that we end up with only a fraction of what one could expect in the market these days).
APPLE! MICROSOFT!
Hey, it is 2006, not 1989. You can not even mention Novell SuSE in the same breath as these two players (feature wise out of the box)!
Windows was invented along time ago... Xerox, Apple, Microsoft,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and we are still forcing folks to use the command line? If SuSE want to rise above it all and they can. Then, they gotta lift their offering to at least the equal of what Microsoft or Apple offers out of the box. Consumers will pay for features! We do every day when we go with a double buger, extras on our vehicles we buy, etc. FEATURES RULE. SuSE needs a better and more complete feature list (in order to get away with what they are charging retail)!
Otherwise - I we gotta load our own multi-media, hack at the command line, risk unstable updates, why not use the lower overhead to produce Ubuntu?
I am looking for a small business replacement for Windows... and from what I have seen so far, we need more applications, and SOLID SUPPORT for the term of the offered support in the marketing literature. I don't see Ubuntu as the answer as there is a question about support over the long haul. Shuttlworth is scratching his head about that one... and maybe his model will be interesting in a few years once there is a track record. SuSE has Ubuntu beaten in several areas... BRAND IS ONE BIG ONE.
Novell has got the stack. They got the interest of the consumer! Novell already has a long and respected track record. Now they need to sing the song that everyone wants to buy.
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