Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 02, 2006 03:13 PM
"Ubuntu was the first release that took away the pain for patching the kernel"
Wow, welcome to the 1990's. I've been using Linux since 10 years as well, and SUSE Linux since 5.0, and I haven't even recompiled a kernel since about 5 years.
"if you have not ever uses apt, you may be thinking rpm's are a nice thing."
First of all, APT is a package manager frontend. I suppose you mean DPKG. Granted, DPKG has some nice features for advanced users RPM hasn't but I really don't think it makes a difference to 95% of users. Oh, and by the way, APT(-RPM) and Synaptic are available for SUSE Linux 10.0 too. As well as yast2, smart, yum and redcarpet.
"oh and while we are at Debian, read their manifesto<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)"
Sure, and it's good to have the Debian folks out there working on their project. Debian is a very good distribution, no question about it but... 1) Ubuntu is not Debian (Ubuntu is actually making a silent fork off Debian and won't have much package compatibility left in some time, it's just happening slowly so most don't notice) 2) SUSE Linux 10.0 has a 100% FOSS version for you to download for free (as will 10.1 and other upcoming releases). I know the Debian manifesto, but why should Debian get the credit for being the only, really, true FOSS distribution ? That's just plain crap. Credit where its due, but SUSE Linux is just as Free and Open Source as Debian.
And BTW, Novell (as does Redhat) has a pretty long list of FOSS developers on various major FOSS projects on their payroll. So please, not this religious Debian stuff.
I'm not bashing Debian nor Ubuntu by any means. Both are excellent distributions, one for the server, the other for the desktop. But most of that Ubuntu thing is hype and marketing. SUSE Linux has been delivering easy of use (and yet full featured and powerful), robustness and good packages for years now. I'm not saying everyone should be using SUSE Linux either. Just that it deserves a lot more credit and is superior to Ubuntu in several areas, especially those that Ubuntu is hyping so much as being its strenghts. <a href="http://opensuse.org/" title="opensuse.org">openSUSE</a opensuse.org> is a free community project, SUSE Linux has a 100% FOSS distribution (and the non-FOSS nitty gritty if you want to).
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Re:Seriously,...
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 02, 2006 03:13 PMWow, welcome to the 1990's. I've been using Linux since 10 years as well, and SUSE Linux since 5.0, and I haven't even recompiled a kernel since about 5 years.
"if you have not ever uses apt, you may be thinking rpm's are a nice thing."
First of all, APT is a package manager frontend. I suppose you mean DPKG. Granted, DPKG has some nice features for advanced users RPM hasn't but I really don't think it makes a difference to 95% of users. Oh, and by the way, APT(-RPM) and Synaptic are available for SUSE Linux 10.0 too. As well as yast2, smart, yum and redcarpet.
"oh and while we are at Debian, read their manifesto<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)"
Sure, and it's good to have the Debian folks out there working on their project. Debian is a very good distribution, no question about it but...
1) Ubuntu is not Debian (Ubuntu is actually making a silent fork off Debian and won't have much package compatibility left in some time, it's just happening slowly so most don't notice)
2) SUSE Linux 10.0 has a 100% FOSS version for you to download for free (as will 10.1 and other upcoming releases). I know the Debian manifesto, but why should Debian get the credit for being the only, really, true FOSS distribution ? That's just plain crap. Credit where its due, but SUSE Linux is just as Free and Open Source as Debian.
And BTW, Novell (as does Redhat) has a pretty long list of FOSS developers on various major FOSS projects on their payroll. So please, not this religious Debian stuff.
I'm not bashing Debian nor Ubuntu by any means. Both are excellent distributions, one for the server, the other for the desktop. But most of that Ubuntu thing is hype and marketing. SUSE Linux has been delivering easy of use (and yet full featured and powerful), robustness and good packages for years now. I'm not saying everyone should be using SUSE Linux either. Just that it deserves a lot more credit and is superior to Ubuntu in several areas, especially those that Ubuntu is hyping so much as being its strenghts.
<a href="http://opensuse.org/" title="opensuse.org">openSUSE</a opensuse.org> is a free community project, SUSE Linux has a 100% FOSS distribution (and the non-FOSS nitty gritty if you want to).
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