Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 29, 2006 03:19 PM
This is what freedom is all about [..]
Depends entirely how much power to screw others your idea of "freedom" contains.
[..] not to mention top code quality for all.
Except the poor bastards who get a half-broken proprietary version and have no idea that it was once BSD licensed.
The BSD code and software are always there for anyone to use.
So is GPLed code, please stop confusing usage with distribution.
Nothing prevents the buyers of proprietary products from switching to the sensible BSD one [..]
Except that the seller is under no obligation to tell them that it exists and can benefit by keeping them in the dark. That and the classic embrace and extend.
[..] thereby, getting freedom and better code.
Would you like fries with that FUD? The point is that you can't allways tell where the better code lies because you can only see one side of the coin.
Without this freedom, would you see OpenSSH as popular as it is now?
Is that a trick question? Is a large portion of OpenSSH users using ClosedSSH?
What SSH client are you using?
Certainly not a proprietary one! How does the ability for someone to make proprietary versions help me with OpenSSH usage again?
It doesn't make any sense.
Depends, can I shoot you?
If you think making the internet safer and spreading freedom as taking it in the rear, you don't understand the BSD license.
If you think that dozens of forks of the same code with unknown, unfindable holes in most of them is making for a safer net you don't understand what security is. I understand the GPL just fine, I have problems with thick headed idiots.
Yes, this is reaming your rear, getting a leg up on you, and forcing DRM down your throat, if you don't understand what I mean.
If there is DRM in the Linux kernel we can know it and remove it. If there is in a "99% OpenBSD, real secre" proprietary product you may not know until it's too late--I have to ask again: what is the use of proprietary versions if no one who cares about freedom will not use them anyway. You lose mindshare and often code pursuing an ideal of "freedom" that would people allow to sell their kids into slavery in the real world.
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Re:Don't moan about Sun
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 29, 2006 03:19 PMDepends entirely how much power to screw others your idea of "freedom" contains.
Except the poor bastards who get a half-broken proprietary version and have no idea that it was once BSD licensed.
So is GPLed code, please stop confusing usage with distribution.
Except that the seller is under no obligation to tell them that it exists and can benefit by keeping them in the dark. That and the classic embrace and extend.
Would you like fries with that FUD? The point is that you can't allways tell where the better code lies because you can only see one side of the coin.
Is that a trick question? Is a large portion of OpenSSH users using ClosedSSH?
Certainly not a proprietary one! How does the ability for someone to make proprietary versions help me with OpenSSH usage again?
Depends, can I shoot you?
If you think that dozens of forks of the same code with unknown, unfindable holes in most of them is making for a safer net you don't understand what security is. I understand the GPL just fine, I have problems with thick headed idiots.
If there is DRM in the Linux kernel we can know it and remove it. If there is in a "99% OpenBSD, real secre" proprietary product you may not know until it's too late--I have to ask again: what is the use of proprietary versions if no one who cares about freedom will not use them anyway. You lose mindshare and often code pursuing an ideal of "freedom" that would people allow to sell their kids into slavery in the real world.
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