Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on April 29, 2006 05:09 AM
Spare me the "it's not free" drivel. Having suffered through years of FOSS garbage I've had it! The fact that it's free does not in and of itself make any software worthwhile. Additionally, using "cute" derogatory names for commercial products does not reduce their value. Not in the least bit.
If and when you have ever used a real directory in a medium or large enterprise, you will very quickly come to realize that OpenLDAP does not scale well (I'm not talking about the number of objects you can load into an LDIF file), is relatively very difficult to setup and is far far far more difficult to manage on a daily basis. Combine these negative aspects with the fact that no software vendors offer any real or direct application compatibility or support for OpenLDAP and I am left wondering why ANYONE would EVER want to use it in the enterprise.
I have yet to use the Fedora/Red Hat directory but, I have used the Netscape directory from which it has been derived and I can tell you with absolute certainty that, compared to eDirectory or even the Active Directory that you seem to loathe, the Netscape directory is also a steaming pile!
Sun fans don't bother chiming in. Sun's future is far too dim and there course is far to shaky for anyone to take their offering seriously. There's just too much risk that Sun will be gone tomorrow or they will decide to abandon the directory market for yet another hair brained strategy.
A good directory with good management tools and and applications that integrate with it are essential for any enterprise of more than 5 people. So much so that any such enterprise is more than willing to spend large amounts of cash on such a directory. OpenLDAP isn't even in the running!
Right now there are two real directories for the enterprise. eDirectory is the best of the bunch but, Active Directory has a large installed base and is well supported by third party vendors so it cannot be ignored. Active Directory also has great management tools, Novell seems to have trouble deciding which tools and which names they are going to wear on any given week.
You think that you and Terpstra being the only ones to be able to properly implement Samba and OpenLDAP (you do think highly of yourself) is a bragging point. You think it makes you 1337. It doesn't. Instead, your claim just lends further credibility to my assertion that OpenLDAP is not the answer that people are looking for.
We already have good working (non-free (TM)RMS) directories. What we need is for developers to leverage those directories and stop insisting that we manage yet another one! Novell has done a great job of addressing this issue with their DirXML software which allows bidirectional synchronization between directories such as eDirectory, Active Directory, SAP, etc. But, this adds yet another point of failure that could all be eliminated if the application developers would just get a clue (MySQL).
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on April 29, 2006 05:09 AMIf and when you have ever used a real directory in a medium or large enterprise, you will very quickly come to realize that OpenLDAP does not scale well (I'm not talking about the number of objects you can load into an LDIF file), is relatively very difficult to setup and is far far far more difficult to manage on a daily basis. Combine these negative aspects with the fact that no software vendors offer any real or direct application compatibility or support for OpenLDAP and I am left wondering why ANYONE would EVER want to use it in the enterprise.
I have yet to use the Fedora/Red Hat directory but, I have used the Netscape directory from which it has been derived and I can tell you with absolute certainty that, compared to eDirectory or even the Active Directory that you seem to loathe, the Netscape directory is also a steaming pile!
Sun fans don't bother chiming in. Sun's future is far too dim and there course is far to shaky for anyone to take their offering seriously. There's just too much risk that Sun will be gone tomorrow or they will decide to abandon the directory market for yet another hair brained strategy.
A good directory with good management tools and and applications that integrate with it are essential for any enterprise of more than 5 people. So much so that any such enterprise is more than willing to spend large amounts of cash on such a directory. OpenLDAP isn't even in the running!
Right now there are two real directories for the enterprise. eDirectory is the best of the bunch but, Active Directory has a large installed base and is well supported by third party vendors so it cannot be ignored. Active Directory also has great management tools, Novell seems to have trouble deciding which tools and which names they are going to wear on any given week.
You think that you and Terpstra being the only ones to be able to properly implement Samba and OpenLDAP (you do think highly of yourself) is a bragging point. You think it makes you 1337. It doesn't. Instead, your claim just lends further credibility to my assertion that OpenLDAP is not the answer that people are looking for.
We already have good working (non-free (TM)RMS) directories. What we need is for developers to leverage those directories and stop insisting that we manage yet another one! Novell has done a great job of addressing this issue with their DirXML software which allows bidirectional synchronization between directories such as eDirectory, Active Directory, SAP, etc. But, this adds yet another point of failure that could all be eliminated if the application developers would just get a clue (MySQL).
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