Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP will not be done till spring!
Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on September 24, 2006 11:44 PM
The LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu efforts have some design flaws in the install, and they have some features that the other LTSP providers offer that they have not matched yet. Yes, it did seem that the folks at Ubuntu/Edubuntu were trying to go their own way (and starting from scratch to do so). AND yes, they do have some points that are valid as to the reasons to go the way they are going. And yes, the forking (if you would call it that, instead it might have been the push that moved the other LTSP camp off their existing path into a new and more long term LTSP direction), anyway, the "forking" certainly got the attention of LTSP folks and those folks DO IN FACT agree with parts of the direction that Ubuntu/Edubuntu ended up taking. However, some good things that LTSP and K12LTSP were doing were being ignored by Ubuntu/Edbuntu LTSP folks (and this I thing they now know was a mistake)!
So - as a reasult, they are working togeather better as both realize that both camps can do more togeather vs doing it apart.
Funny thing is that on the K12lTSP.org site in the archives somewhere is an email from a fellow in South Africa (Ubuntu's home turf) where he exclaimed that since K12LTSP 5.0 is out... that they were starting on a road show to install, or upgrade, some 200 locations with K12LTSP 5.0 (notice he did not write they were installing, or upgrading these locations to Edubuntu...)! So - most likely these folks also saw Ubuntu/Edubuntu as lacking.
My guess is that Ubuntu/Edubuntu folks know this by now. Edubuntu has some design problems, is not finished to the point that even the developers would like, etc... Hey - LTSP on all the platforms the the *buntu family have a vast future... but, everyone in the LTSP world needs to be on the same page, and helping each other out to get to a COMMON end point (that is supportable, and compatible with each and every other LTSP offering)!
I give it until next spring when we will start to see a Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP release that is LTSP ready, usable, and one would hope with all the needed install parts included so that it is like the K12LTSP install. The reason why I doubt, is because of when this meeting happened in August, well into the Edgy Release time frame that is when everything goes into feature Freeze mode, meaning that nothing new from an August work sesstion most likely will NOT make it into the Edgy 6.10 Release! So, most likely LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu will maybe happen finally by the release that is slated for next spring (about the time we see Vista)!
I like Ubuntu... it is just that LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu ain't done yet. AND if you email them, they will admit to that fact.
I also like SuSE over Ubuntu as SuSE does a better job with Security updates vs Ubuntu that is stil dedicating huge amounts of efforts toward pushing out new features (vs maintaining what they got out there now) and so, I sure would wish that Novell would wake up and offer help to climb onto the LTSP bandwagon.
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Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP will not be done till spring!
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on September 24, 2006 11:44 PMSo - as a reasult, they are working togeather better as both realize that both camps can do more togeather vs doing it apart.
Funny thing is that on the K12lTSP.org site in the archives somewhere is an email from a fellow in South Africa (Ubuntu's home turf) where he exclaimed that since K12LTSP 5.0 is out... that they were starting on a road show to install, or upgrade, some 200 locations with K12LTSP 5.0 (notice he did not write they were installing, or upgrading these locations to Edubuntu...)! So - most likely these folks also saw Ubuntu/Edubuntu as lacking.
My guess is that Ubuntu/Edubuntu folks know this by now. Edubuntu has some design problems, is not finished to the point that even the developers would like, etc... Hey - LTSP on all the platforms the the *buntu family have a vast future... but, everyone in the LTSP world needs to be on the same page, and helping each other out to get to a COMMON end point (that is supportable, and compatible with each and every other LTSP offering)!
I give it until next spring when we will start to see a Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP release that is LTSP ready, usable, and one would hope with all the needed install parts included so that it is like the K12LTSP install. The reason why I doubt, is because of when this meeting happened in August, well into the Edgy Release time frame that is when everything goes into feature Freeze mode, meaning that nothing new from an August work sesstion most likely will NOT make it into the Edgy 6.10 Release! So, most likely LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu will maybe happen finally by the release that is slated for next spring (about the time we see Vista)!
I like Ubuntu... it is just that LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu ain't done yet. AND if you email them, they will admit to that fact.
I also like SuSE over Ubuntu as SuSE does a better job with Security updates vs Ubuntu that is stil dedicating huge amounts of efforts toward pushing out new features (vs maintaining what they got out there now) and so, I sure would wish that Novell would wake up and offer help to climb onto the LTSP bandwagon.
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