apt vs RPM? Cargo vs Ferry? Solar System vs Earth?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 16, 2006 12:19 AM
Ok, I post this a second time because I unfortunatelly posted this first as a reply to a comment, and I mixed up a part. Here is my critic:
Like many others: you have no idea what you are talking about when you start comparing RPM to yum or apt:
"Yum is a vast improvement over RPM for package installation."
That's wrong - RPM is still used for package installation. But you completly fail the understanding of RPM, and what RPM is: RPM was never meant to resolve dependency issues like apt - to compare apt with RPM is just dumb,it's like comparing a container ferry with a cargo box. The RPM analogon in the debian world is dpkg! So when you want to compare RPM to something, compare it to dpkg.
Yum, on the other hand, is around for a pretty long time now, so stop presenting it as a successor of RPM. That's just dumb. Instead, just compare yum to apt, and that's it.
And, btw.: why don't you show some things which make yum unique? Like on-the-fly mirror choosing with server based mirrors? Try to make this with apt. Or what about the plugin structure? That's a real improvement. Do not talk about yum as a try to hide the flaws of RPM on the one hand, and as the try to reach out to apt on the other hand, that's just dumb and gives the idea that you do not really know what you are talink about.
Writing such paragraphs is also a disadvantage for the Debian-folks: they miss the opportunity to have a look at tools which are developing much, much fast than apt, and heading away from apt. Have you ever noticed that apt4rpm died? Do not complain, start thinking why: because the competitors are offering more and better services. There is no apt vs RPM, that's stupid. But there is apt vs urpmi, there is apt vs yum, there is apt vs smartpm, there is apt vs redcarpet/yast (the new suse package manager, yet not released as stable), there is...
Please, stop fudding around about RPM.
Besindes that: You made some mistakes which are a little bit confusing: - Why do you write that system-config-kickstart is new? It is included in Fedora Core since the beginning. - Why do you write that Xen would be new? It was already included in FC4.
Please be more specific in these cases, everything else confuses users and falls back on the distribution...
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apt vs RPM? Cargo vs Ferry? Solar System vs Earth?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 16, 2006 12:19 AMLike many others: you have no idea what you are talking about when you start comparing RPM to yum or apt:
"Yum is a vast improvement over RPM for package installation."
That's wrong - RPM is still used for package installation. But you completly fail the understanding of RPM, and what RPM is:
RPM was never meant to resolve dependency issues like apt - to compare apt with RPM is just dumb,it's like comparing a container ferry with a cargo box. The RPM analogon in the debian world is dpkg!
So when you want to compare RPM to something, compare it to dpkg.
Yum, on the other hand, is around for a pretty long time now, so stop presenting it as a successor of RPM. That's just dumb.
Instead, just compare yum to apt, and that's it.
And, btw.: why don't you show some things which make yum unique? Like on-the-fly mirror choosing with server based mirrors? Try to make this with apt.
Or what about the plugin structure? That's a real improvement. Do not talk about yum as a try to hide the flaws of RPM on the one hand, and as the try to reach out to apt on the other hand, that's just dumb and gives the idea that you do not really know what you are talink about.
Writing such paragraphs is also a disadvantage for the Debian-folks: they miss the opportunity to have a look at tools which are developing much, much fast than apt, and heading away from apt. Have you ever noticed that apt4rpm died? Do not complain, start thinking why: because the competitors are offering more and better services. There is no apt vs RPM, that's stupid. But there is apt vs urpmi, there is apt vs yum, there is apt vs smartpm, there is apt vs redcarpet/yast (the new suse package manager, yet not released as stable), there is...
Please, stop fudding around about RPM.
Besindes that:
You made some mistakes which are a little bit confusing:
- Why do you write that system-config-kickstart is new? It is included in Fedora Core since the beginning.
- Why do you write that Xen would be new? It was already included in FC4.
Please be more specific in these cases, everything else confuses users and falls back on the distribution...
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