Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on July 07, 2006 12:00 AM
hmm... I might have been missunderstood
It's definetly not the power that I see lacking in shells like bash - to the contrary there is plenty of it. What I would like to see are convinience, easy learning curve, easy exploration of the shell capabilities etc.
That is it's not easy for a new user to use even a small part of bash capabilites. They are hiden. It's the typical "read the man page, experiment, read the man again, work for a few days, oops you forgot the shortcut? go read the man page again - after some months you are a guru, go impress your friends". I prefer the other aproach "read the first 2 pages of the manual, play with it, learn as you play, let the UI provide feedback and help you explore it, when you're really up to doing something impressive read the other manual pages and experiment a few times"
An example: I usualy forget the little important details of how to search for an html file that contains the word "linux" through the shell. I can NEVER forget how to do the same in mc - it's damn obvius. Ofcourse I can't make complex searches in mc but I could do 90% of the searches I care to do if mc had just a few more controls in the search window.
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Re:too much keybindings to learn
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 07, 2006 12:00 AMIt's definetly not the power that I see lacking in shells like bash - to the contrary there is plenty of it. What I would like to see are convinience, easy learning curve, easy exploration of the shell capabilities etc.
That is it's not easy for a new user to use even a small part of bash capabilites. They are hiden. It's the typical "read the man page, experiment, read the man again, work for a few days, oops you forgot the shortcut? go read the man page again - after some months you are a guru, go impress your friends". I prefer the other aproach "read the first 2 pages of the manual, play with it, learn as you play, let the UI provide feedback and help you explore it, when you're really up to doing something impressive read the other manual pages and experiment a few times"
An example: I usualy forget the little important details of how to search for an html file that contains the word "linux" through the shell. I can NEVER forget how to do the same in mc - it's damn obvius. Ofcourse I can't make complex searches in mc but I could do 90% of the searches I care to do if mc had just a few more controls in the search window.
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