Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on July 02, 2006 06:52 AM
But you can't patch it until you connect to the internet...
The "dumb monkey factor" kicked up a few notches today...No wait, that's cruel to monkeys. I have more respect for monkeys that I have for you.
Did you even read what the other guy said?
He said prepare your install BEFORE you connect a brand new box to the web!
Does he have to draw you a picture?
You make "setup CDs" of your own consisting of the latest patches and apps you need. Its convenient to use this thing he calls "Autopatcher". Judging by that website, its the current updates and such in a covenient single download and install.
Install Windows, install service pack, then Autopatcher, then Zone Alarm, and any other nonsense that you feel will help your security situation. Disable services that you don't use, then connect to the web to do a final update.
Any experienced Windows user knows this.
The fact that such preparation is necessary is a testimony to Windows' insecurity.
Eh no.
Windows insecurity are because of factors as follows:
(1) Users are NOT educated in basic security concepts and measures. They will click on anything. Its like giving an 8 yr old a 9mm handgun.
(2) No robust security mechanisms are built in by default. Its all fluff to keep the general population happy. (Just enough...Crap like MS "anti-spyware" or whatever the heck they call it now.)
(3) You can't run crap without using the admin account, so many people don't bother setting things up properly. (Because "its too hard").
(4) Microsoft's slow response to security patches. Its bloody ridiculous! Open-source can do things within hours, and yet a Multi-Billion dollar company can't achieve better! Unpaid volunteers beating paid workers...That's a first!
(5) Microsoft's continued insistence of using crap like Outlook, IE and ActiveX, despite they are the primary attack vectors for malware.
(6) WinXP is old as crap. Recent Linux distros will obviously have less patches to install by default. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
What you've said is like saying Linux is insecure because you're using Red Hat 7.3 and got compromised because you weren't able to update in time.
Such a scenario (assuming the admin wants to stay with RedHat 7.3), would involve going to the Fedora Legacy website, and downloading the required patches, burning them onto CD, install and prepare the old RedHat box BEFORE connecting to the web.
Its simple logic, prepare your boxes before you go on the web. Any admin or experienced computer user can see this logic. But apparently, your "spider-monkey" powered brain completely failed to register that one. It went right over your head.
I'm not defending Windows or Microsoft. I'm pointing out your stupidity in making utterly dumb comments that ANY Windows fanboi can refute.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...And its sad how you actually use Linux. You're the kind of person that gives the entire Open-source community a bad name.
Here's a tip: If you're gonna argue against Windows, at least build up the necessary truths in making your case. That's what open-source is about. The truth. (along with freedom, choice and independence).
Sprouting crap out of your butt is what Marketing Departments of large corporations do. Maybe you should apply for those kinds of jobs, as you'd fit perfectly in there! You've already pulled nonsense out of your butt, why not get paid for it?
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Re:Ubuntu should have a firewall by default
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 02, 2006 06:52 AMThe "dumb monkey factor" kicked up a few notches today...No wait, that's cruel to monkeys. I have more respect for monkeys that I have for you.
Did you even read what the other guy said?
He said prepare your install BEFORE you connect a brand new box to the web!
Does he have to draw you a picture?
You make "setup CDs" of your own consisting of the latest patches and apps you need. Its convenient to use this thing he calls "Autopatcher". Judging by that website, its the current updates and such in a covenient single download and install.
Install Windows, install service pack, then Autopatcher, then Zone Alarm, and any other nonsense that you feel will help your security situation. Disable services that you don't use, then connect to the web to do a final update.
Any experienced Windows user knows this.
Eh no.
Windows insecurity are because of factors as follows:
(1) Users are NOT educated in basic security concepts and measures. They will click on anything. Its like giving an 8 yr old a 9mm handgun.
(2) No robust security mechanisms are built in by default. Its all fluff to keep the general population happy. (Just enough...Crap like MS "anti-spyware" or whatever the heck they call it now.)
(3) You can't run crap without using the admin account, so many people don't bother setting things up properly. (Because "its too hard").
(4) Microsoft's slow response to security patches. Its bloody ridiculous! Open-source can do things within hours, and yet a Multi-Billion dollar company can't achieve better! Unpaid volunteers beating paid workers...That's a first!
(5) Microsoft's continued insistence of using crap like Outlook, IE and ActiveX, despite they are the primary attack vectors for malware.
(6) WinXP is old as crap. Recent Linux distros will obviously have less patches to install by default. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
What you've said is like saying Linux is insecure because you're using Red Hat 7.3 and got compromised because you weren't able to update in time.
Such a scenario (assuming the admin wants to stay with RedHat 7.3), would involve going to the Fedora Legacy website, and downloading the required patches, burning them onto CD, install and prepare the old RedHat box BEFORE connecting to the web.
Its simple logic, prepare your boxes before you go on the web. Any admin or experienced computer user can see this logic. But apparently, your "spider-monkey" powered brain completely failed to register that one. It went right over your head.
I'm not defending Windows or Microsoft. I'm pointing out your stupidity in making utterly dumb comments that ANY Windows fanboi can refute.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...And its sad how you actually use Linux. You're the kind of person that gives the entire Open-source community a bad name.
Here's a tip: If you're gonna argue against Windows, at least build up the necessary truths in making your case. That's what open-source is about. The truth. (along with freedom, choice and independence).
Sprouting crap out of your butt is what Marketing Departments of large corporations do. Maybe you should apply for those kinds of jobs, as you'd fit perfectly in there! You've already pulled nonsense out of your butt, why not get paid for it?
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