Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on September 24, 2006 11:30 PM
If you understand the issues clearly. You will understand this:
These ain't bugs we are talking about. They are design flaws, make by folks at Ubuntu/Edubuntu that are trying to go their own way (and starting from scratch to do so). They do have some points that are valid as to the reasons to go the way they are. And the forking certainly got the attention of LTSP folks and those folks agree with part of the direction that Ubuntu/Edubuntu were taking.
So - as a reasult, they are working togeather better as both realize that both camps can do more togeather vs doing it apart.
Funny thing is that on the K12lTSP.org site in the archives somewhere is an email from a fellow in South Africa (Ubuntu's home turf) where he exclaimed that since K12LTSP 5.0 is out... that they were starting on a road show to install, or upgrade, some 200 locations with K12LTSP 5.0 (notice he did not write they were installing, or upgrading these locations to Edubuntu...)! So - most likely these folks also saw Ubuntu/Edubuntu as lacking.
My guess is that Ubuntu/Edubuntu folks know this by now. Edubuntu has some design problems, is not finished to the point that even the developers would like, etc... Hey - LTSP on all the platforms the the *buntu family have a vast future... but, everyone in the LTSP world needs to be on the same page, and helping each other out to get to a COMMON end point (that is supportable, and compatible with each and every other LTSP offering)!
I give it until next spring when we will start to see a Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP release that is LTSP ready, usable, and one would hope with all the needed install parts included so that it is like the K12LTSP install. I like Ubuntu... it is just that LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu ain't done yet.
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Re:Have you submitted - these ain't bugs!
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on September 24, 2006 11:30 PMThese ain't bugs we are talking about. They are design flaws, make by folks at Ubuntu/Edubuntu that are trying to go their own way (and starting from scratch to do so). They do have some points that are valid as to the reasons to go the way they are. And the forking certainly got the attention of LTSP folks and those folks agree with part of the direction that Ubuntu/Edubuntu were taking.
So - as a reasult, they are working togeather better as both realize that both camps can do more togeather vs doing it apart.
Funny thing is that on the K12lTSP.org site in the archives somewhere is an email from a fellow in South Africa (Ubuntu's home turf) where he exclaimed that since K12LTSP 5.0 is out... that they were starting on a road show to install, or upgrade, some 200 locations with K12LTSP 5.0 (notice he did not write they were installing, or upgrading these locations to Edubuntu...)! So - most likely these folks also saw Ubuntu/Edubuntu as lacking.
My guess is that Ubuntu/Edubuntu folks know this by now. Edubuntu has some design problems, is not finished to the point that even the developers would like, etc... Hey - LTSP on all the platforms the the *buntu family have a vast future... but, everyone in the LTSP world needs to be on the same page, and helping each other out to get to a COMMON end point (that is supportable, and compatible with each and every other LTSP offering)!
I give it until next spring when we will start to see a Ubuntu/Edubuntu LTSP release that is LTSP ready, usable, and one would hope with all the needed install parts included so that it is like the K12LTSP install. I like Ubuntu... it is just that LTSP Ubuntu/Edubuntu ain't done yet.
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