Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on February 15, 2007 03:40 AM
n00bs have nothing to do with 1337 messing-a "latest multimedia sources".
Seriously, if you're arguing *for* source-based installs in area where inter-library dependencies are as serious as in Gnome, then you are failure to us maintainers as a user -- it's plain next to impossible to cope with that without dependency tracking tools, especially regarding sonames.
I've recently tried to backport recent Kino for our stable, and you know what? Gave up on third library, since being able to think systematically has so far earned me both half-decent hardware and half-decent connection at home.
If you would have stopped messing with what Debian folks rightfully "religiously" oppose and took the time to stick to ONE half-decent distro (which destroys dummy argument for "different software installation methods" -- which is rather wrong anyways, there are some 5 different ones, two being major -- apt and yum), you would have earned yours instead of complaining for being still a newbie.
> Linux distros fail this No. It's Linux users who would complain on more competent people and try to reinvent the wheel who fail this, and that.
If you're offline, use stable releases and backports for them. Learn to backport packages. Learn to understand where it's feasible and where the stack change rate is just too high to keep up offline (like basically any video-related stuff).
It should be basic knowledge that free software requires free time, free traffic or just isn't that free. C'est la vie.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 15, 2007 03:40 AMSeriously, if you're arguing *for* source-based installs in area where inter-library dependencies are as serious as in Gnome, then you are failure to us maintainers as a user -- it's plain next to impossible to cope with that without dependency tracking tools, especially regarding sonames.
I've recently tried to backport recent Kino for our stable, and you know what? Gave up on third library, since being able to think systematically has so far earned me both half-decent hardware and half-decent connection at home.
If you would have stopped messing with what Debian folks rightfully "religiously" oppose and took the time to stick to ONE half-decent distro (which destroys dummy argument for "different software installation methods" -- which is rather wrong anyways, there are some 5 different ones, two being major -- apt and yum), you would have earned yours instead of complaining for being still a newbie.
> Linux distros fail this
No. It's Linux users who would complain on more competent people and try to reinvent the wheel who fail this, and that.
If you're offline, use stable releases and backports for them. Learn to backport packages. Learn to understand where it's feasible and where the stack change rate is just too high to keep up offline (like basically any video-related stuff).
It should be basic knowledge that free software requires free time, free traffic or just isn't that free. C'est la vie.
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