Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on February 22, 2007 04:40 AM
Got to agree.
I used Red Hat for a while, but not that much since at that time I wasn't heavily using Linux.
Then I installed Mandriva 2005 Lite and switched my day to day work to Linux.
I upgraded to Mandriva 2006 a few months after it came out - so the upgrade went without a hitch, as the early bugs had been patched out - so I never saw them.
I upgraded to Mandriva 2007 SOON after it came out.
Big mistake. Hosed the installation. How do you recover from a couple hundred megabytes of upgrade? You don't.
I dumped Mandriva and tried to switch to SUSE 10.1. Their package management was hosed. Syonara, SUSE!
I switched to Kubuntu. Their installer page for changing mount points wouldn't even let you leave the page! NO testing had EVER been done on installation, obviously!
But I persevered with the text installer. I now run Kubuntu. But there are bugs. I frequently get a stupid "server overload" error that appears to be a KDE problem going back YEARS. Recently Adept offered to upgrade my kernel headers - then told me it would break my system if I did! Thankfully it did catch the potential break.
I wanted to install Kerry Beagle - Synaptic told me it would have to remove my Pan newsreader to do this. WTF?
ALL the distros are in trouble. Linux and its apps are now FAR too complex for the limited manpower and testing possible for most of the distros. The situation will get worse unless there are redesigns and rewrites of how core operations of testing, upgrading and package management are done.
This won't stop Linux from being useful - but we are entering a "period of pain" where using Linux is going to be nearly as bad as using Windows - until somebody gets a clue and fixes the problems - instead of ignoring them or denying they exist.
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Re:Feel Better Now?
Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 22, 2007 04:40 AMI used Red Hat for a while, but not that much since at that time I wasn't heavily using Linux.
Then I installed Mandriva 2005 Lite and switched my day to day work to Linux.
I upgraded to Mandriva 2006 a few months after it came out - so the upgrade went without a hitch, as the early bugs had been patched out - so I never saw them.
I upgraded to Mandriva 2007 SOON after it came out.
Big mistake. Hosed the installation. How do you recover from a couple hundred megabytes of upgrade? You don't.
I dumped Mandriva and tried to switch to SUSE 10.1. Their package management was hosed. Syonara, SUSE!
I switched to Kubuntu. Their installer page for changing mount points wouldn't even let you leave the page! NO testing had EVER been done on installation, obviously!
But I persevered with the text installer. I now run Kubuntu. But there are bugs. I frequently get a stupid "server overload" error that appears to be a KDE problem going back YEARS. Recently Adept offered to upgrade my kernel headers - then told me it would break my system if I did! Thankfully it did catch the potential break.
I wanted to install Kerry Beagle - Synaptic told me it would have to remove my Pan newsreader to do this. WTF?
ALL the distros are in trouble. Linux and its apps are now FAR too complex for the limited manpower and testing possible for most of the distros. The situation will get worse unless there are redesigns and rewrites of how core operations of testing, upgrading and package management are done.
This won't stop Linux from being useful - but we are entering a "period of pain" where using Linux is going to be nearly as bad as using Windows - until somebody gets a clue and fixes the problems - instead of ignoring them or denying they exist.
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