Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on February 22, 2007 08:31 AM
Curiously, i did the exact same thing when i got sick and tired of Slackware spiraling out of control. Now obviously linux.com won't put up my fevered rantings, but i stuck them up in my own circles anyway.
This is a real problem. I don't know if Ubuntu is the right solution, or if it is even on the right track (weirdly, i switched to Ubuntu myself) but it is at least coherent.
Now, i love Slackware. And Pat (the guy in charge) has sort of had a bit of a bad time recently, so perhaps the new one (11, which i have not tried) or the one after that will be better. But in any case, my complaint was not to make myself feel better. It was to try to say this: it doesn't have to be like this. Slackware (or Fedora) doesn't have to be like this, and Linux itself doesn't have to be like this. It's through poor decisions, poor design, and general Linux-community foolishness that we get stuck with this nonsense.
Things like GTK themes requiring you to install ALL of bloody Gnome in order to work (WHY???) or configuration files having 20,000+ lines of configuration (not even CLOSE to joking about that) are just stupid. Sure it technically works, in the same way a car held together with duct tape instead of nuts and bolts technically works. But that's not the sort of thing i want to use.
Really, Ubuntu doesn't even try to address the underlying problems i had with other distributions. It's just a better distribution of the duct tape.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 22, 2007 08:31 AMThis is a real problem. I don't know if Ubuntu is the right solution, or if it is even on the right track (weirdly, i switched to Ubuntu myself) but it is at least coherent.
Now, i love Slackware. And Pat (the guy in charge) has sort of had a bit of a bad time recently, so perhaps the new one (11, which i have not tried) or the one after that will be better. But in any case, my complaint was not to make myself feel better. It was to try to say this: it doesn't have to be like this. Slackware (or Fedora) doesn't have to be like this, and Linux itself doesn't have to be like this. It's through poor decisions, poor design, and general Linux-community foolishness that we get stuck with this nonsense.
Things like GTK themes requiring you to install ALL of bloody Gnome in order to work (WHY???) or configuration files having 20,000+ lines of configuration (not even CLOSE to joking about that) are just stupid. Sure it technically works, in the same way a car held together with duct tape instead of nuts and bolts technically works. But that's not the sort of thing i want to use.
Really, Ubuntu doesn't even try to address the underlying problems i had with other distributions. It's just a better distribution of the duct tape.
(But: i do believe it is better.)
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