Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 15, 2007 09:02 PM
Sadly there are a number of cornerstone programs with the general quality issues I noted. No one program has all of these issues, but most have many, if not most, of the issues.
It is very interesting you make a conclusion that I am pointing to seamonkey/firefox. This is suggestive that people are aware that the issues I noted exist.
With regards to your comment about seamonkey/firefox being the example source of issues, if that is the case then there should be effort made to address the issues. If people know about these issues then I think you have actually proved my major points on OSS code quality and the lack of focus, in part lack of quality focus, but the overall lack of focus that has quality as a casulty of the lack of focus.
As to your comments about no more than 15 minutes to exit on Debian, of no more than hour on Windows you are confirming how people make asumptions and conclusions that nobody could possibility have a very consistant different experience to another's experience or assumption to cause of issue. Basically what you may be implying is issues reported by others could not possibiliy happen. I know for a fact that typically with OSS projects there assumption is if they cannot experience the problem it cannot possibility happen. Actually this is true of even commerical based software development as well.
Do you experience most of issues the many bugs fixed in the programs you use in Debian? I would suspect not, but I am sure you, like most people, apply the security and bug fixes so you will not. Therefore you are not experiencing most of the issues the many bug fixes fix, but wish to do your best to not have any of the possible issues by applying the updates.
This means in general most people do not experience directly about 99% of the bugs that are fixed. These bug and security fixes are by and large valid fixes for valid issues. No question about that. My point is most people generally have not actually experienced the issue, ergo one cannot state that one's experience in using a program is the one and only way the program will behave (or misbehave) and one cannot conclude if one has not experienced the issue it cannot exist.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 15, 2007 09:02 PMIt is very interesting you make a conclusion that I am pointing to seamonkey/firefox. This is suggestive that people are aware that the issues I noted exist.
With regards to your comment about seamonkey/firefox being the example source of issues, if that is the case then there should be effort made to address the issues. If people know about these issues then I think you have actually proved my major points on OSS code quality and the lack of focus, in part lack of quality focus, but the overall lack of focus that has quality as a casulty of the lack of focus.
As to your comments about no more than 15 minutes to exit on Debian, of no more than hour on Windows you are confirming how people make asumptions and conclusions that nobody could possibility have a very consistant different experience to another's experience or assumption to cause of issue. Basically what you may be implying is issues reported by others could not possibiliy happen. I know for a fact that typically with OSS projects there assumption is if they cannot experience the problem it cannot possibility happen. Actually this is true of even commerical based software development as well.
Do you experience most of issues the many bugs fixed in the programs you use in Debian? I would suspect not, but I am sure you, like most people, apply the security and bug fixes so you will not. Therefore you are not experiencing most of the issues the many bug fixes fix, but wish to do your best to not have any of the possible issues by applying the updates.
This means in general most people do not experience directly about 99% of the bugs that are fixed. These bug and security fixes are by and large valid fixes for valid issues. No question about that. My point is most people generally have not actually experienced the issue, ergo one cannot state that one's experience in using a program is the one and only way the program will behave (or misbehave) and one cannot conclude if one has not experienced the issue it cannot exist.
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