Posted by: Anonymous Coward
on March 24, 2007 03:57 AM
So, lemme summarize and see if I'm understanding you correctly. You feel that Adobe and On2 pricing is too high and you resent the idea of you having to pay so dearly for it. To garner support for your indignation, you drag in FOSS and that it won't be able to play in the Flash field because of the 'onerous' pricing and licensing requirements. But, according to you, Adobe can fix it all by using a cheaper codec or offering cheaper pricing so that you can afford Adobe Flash or you can get a gratis alternative in the guise of libre software.
Boo freaking hoo, Robin! Boo freaking hoo!
First, Adobe doesn't give a rat's ass about whether you or anyone else can produce Flash video for free. They are all about maximizing how much you pay and they just spent a boat load of money buying Macromedia to facilitate the extraction of money from everyone's wallet, including yours. They are basing this strategy on OPEC's new thinking; squeeze them for all you can. Which is why gasoline prices are again rocketing towards $3 per gallon and why Exxon is planning for yet ANOTHER record profit! But, just to go one step further, Ogg Theora which you mentioned, is free and it's lack of cost has done absolutely NOTHING to advance its adoption. Even most Linux users don't bother with Ogg and its ridiculous name.
Second, Flash is an abomination that was forced onto the web by Macromedia marketing and web developers that just couldn't stand to not have a dancing, twirling, singing home page. You don't have to use it and it is definitely not the only or best format for video. The fact is that there are several very good quality video formats that will play on most all OSes using the bundled multimedia players. Read - no need to install additional players. The fact that you chose Flash for your videos was entirely your decision so you have no one to blame for your displeasure but yourself.
Third, no one, not even Adobe, is forcing you to use Flash 8/9. You can continue to use Flash 6/7 and or the FOSS stuff that supports it. In fact it is people like you, always perpetuating the upgrade treadmill because you just can't do without the ability to render the play button in the newest wiget, that cause an annoyance with Flash consumers where they are required by various websites to download and install the latest 7, 8, 9 Flash players in order to view content that doesn't even need to be Flash in the first place! The irony is that this is a download and install that you claim isn't required when you use Flash to distribute your content because 'everybody already has a Flash player installed'.
Finally there is your YouTube argument again, it's a pointless one. YouTube's days are numbered. The recent billion dollar lawsuit that Google now faces will likely be the end of its meteoric rise. But, even if YouTube continues to flourish and continues to rely on Flash, they can continue to use the "old" version 6 or 7. This will cost them no more money, save their users from having to download and install the new player and still be compatible with those that already have the new player installed.
If you put down the crack pipe and look at the problem, you will see that the problem is entirely your own. But, it is easily fixed by not using Flash in the first place! So, quit whining.
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Posted by: Anonymous Coward on March 24, 2007 03:57 AMBoo freaking hoo, Robin! Boo freaking hoo!
First, Adobe doesn't give a rat's ass about whether you or anyone else can produce Flash video for free. They are all about maximizing how much you pay and they just spent a boat load of money buying Macromedia to facilitate the extraction of money from everyone's wallet, including yours. They are basing this strategy on OPEC's new thinking; squeeze them for all you can. Which is why gasoline prices are again rocketing towards $3 per gallon and why Exxon is planning for yet ANOTHER record profit! But, just to go one step further, Ogg Theora which you mentioned, is free and it's lack of cost has done absolutely NOTHING to advance its adoption. Even most Linux users don't bother with Ogg and its ridiculous name.
Second, Flash is an abomination that was forced onto the web by Macromedia marketing and web developers that just couldn't stand to not have a dancing, twirling, singing home page. You don't have to use it and it is definitely not the only or best format for video. The fact is that there are several very good quality video formats that will play on most all OSes using the bundled multimedia players. Read - no need to install additional players. The fact that you chose Flash for your videos was entirely your decision so you have no one to blame for your displeasure but yourself.
Third, no one, not even Adobe, is forcing you to use Flash 8/9. You can continue to use Flash 6/7 and or the FOSS stuff that supports it. In fact it is people like you, always perpetuating the upgrade treadmill because you just can't do without the ability to render the play button in the newest wiget, that cause an annoyance with Flash consumers where they are required by various websites to download and install the latest 7, 8, 9 Flash players in order to view content that doesn't even need to be Flash in the first place! The irony is that this is a download and install that you claim isn't required when you use Flash to distribute your content because 'everybody already has a Flash player installed'.
Finally there is your YouTube argument again, it's a pointless one. YouTube's days are numbered. The recent billion dollar lawsuit that Google now faces will likely be the end of its meteoric rise. But, even if YouTube continues to flourish and continues to rely on Flash, they can continue to use the "old" version 6 or 7. This will cost them no more money, save their users from having to download and install the new player and still be compatible with those that already have the new player installed.
If you put down the crack pipe and look at the problem, you will see that the problem is entirely your own. But, it is easily fixed by not using Flash in the first place! So, quit whining.
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