Posted by: Anonymous
[ip: 67.38.148.20]
on September 26, 2007 02:18 AM
"That joe-schmo may very well raise a point that the edjumucated scholar missed (or, sometimes, refused to acknowledge)"
Yes, the usual wishful thinking. Rocket science ain't easy, so stop pretending that it is.
"This is 2007, not 1987. The research papers need to be on the Web, not on pulped dead trees."
That's not at all accurate. Most journals do publish online now, but just because you are publishing online does not mean that your costs disappear! You know, staff have to be paid. Don't get me wrong; I am _not_ in favour of for-profit journals, but asking them to give their products is not that answer. The public access movement would do better to focus on society-sponsored journals whose costs are minimal to free. My experience with a lot of the public access movement is that they want the commercial journals because of their high impact, but they don't want to pay for them. No free lunch dudes.
PRISM Coalition lobbies against open access
Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 67.38.148.20] on September 26, 2007 02:18 AMYes, the usual wishful thinking. Rocket science ain't easy, so stop pretending that it is.
"This is 2007, not 1987. The research papers need to be on the Web, not on pulped dead trees."
That's not at all accurate. Most journals do publish online now, but just because you are publishing online does not mean that your costs disappear! You know, staff have to be paid. Don't get me wrong; I am _not_ in favour of for-profit journals, but asking them to give their products is not that answer. The public access movement would do better to focus on society-sponsored journals whose costs are minimal to free. My experience with a lot of the public access movement is that they want the commercial journals because of their high impact, but they don't want to pay for them. No free lunch dudes.
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