Posted by: Anonymous
[ip: 72.153.218.53]
on December 11, 2007 04:51 AM
>> Office 2007 doesn't output OOXML (so, give us an example of where it deviates)
Are you suggesting that it doesn't deviate?
Are you simply saying that you don't know, and you think it doesn't deviate?
Or do you think it does deviate, but you want a bug report filed so that Microsoft can fix the mistake?
Whichever the case, it is potentially an expensive undertaking you are asking considering how new the OOXML document is.
If Microsoft Office was bug free with respect to the OOXML document, I think it would be the first time any such significant body of code was found to be defect free. Clearly I don't believe it is, and history shows that the burden of proof would be on the person making the outragous claims.
I challenge Microsoft to provide a proof that their software works as advertized and have an independent party verify the claims under NDA if necessary. Of course, we'd then be in the position to have to take the third party's word. Such is the problem with closed source software, it does whatever it's developers wanted it to do and you can never really know what that was.
Anyway, I really don't think Microsoft just accomplished the feat you might be suggesting. Vista out not long ago was so far off the perfection mark, I can't imagine anyone would give your suggestion a moment's serious consideration.
>> Office outputs binary data (again, give us an example)
Who is paying for this, or are you really having fun? Do you even know what you are asking? Do you know what binary data is? Are you suggesting that data that was originally binary (like a picture) and was inserted into a document is somehow "un-binarized" by MSO?
I am really looking forward to your third question. ... Nevermind. I saw it started with "mono." No thanks. I think the last thing FOSS needs is to be supporting the monopolist that can't handle the truth that there is software out there competing directly with their products and which it cannot control or force users to pay for or abandon. Mono is the consolation prize to Microsoft. But again, no thanks.
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Re: Wish Roy had been pressed a bit more
Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.153.218.53] on December 11, 2007 04:51 AMAre you suggesting that it doesn't deviate?
Are you simply saying that you don't know, and you think it doesn't deviate?
Or do you think it does deviate, but you want a bug report filed so that Microsoft can fix the mistake?
Whichever the case, it is potentially an expensive undertaking you are asking considering how new the OOXML document is.
If Microsoft Office was bug free with respect to the OOXML document, I think it would be the first time any such significant body of code was found to be defect free. Clearly I don't believe it is, and history shows that the burden of proof would be on the person making the outragous claims.
I challenge Microsoft to provide a proof that their software works as advertized and have an independent party verify the claims under NDA if necessary. Of course, we'd then be in the position to have to take the third party's word. Such is the problem with closed source software, it does whatever it's developers wanted it to do and you can never really know what that was.
Anyway, I really don't think Microsoft just accomplished the feat you might be suggesting. Vista out not long ago was so far off the perfection mark, I can't imagine anyone would give your suggestion a moment's serious consideration.
>> Office outputs binary data (again, give us an example)
Who is paying for this, or are you really having fun? Do you even know what you are asking? Do you know what binary data is? Are you suggesting that data that was originally binary (like a picture) and was inserted into a document is somehow "un-binarized" by MSO?
I am really looking forward to your third question. ... Nevermind. I saw it started with "mono." No thanks. I think the last thing FOSS needs is to be supporting the monopolist that can't handle the truth that there is software out there competing directly with their products and which it cannot control or force users to pay for or abandon. Mono is the consolation prize to Microsoft. But again, no thanks.
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