Re(1): KDE Community Working Group takes care of the community
Posted by: Anonymous
[ip: 63.251.108.100]
on September 05, 2008 10:19 PM
Wow, I could have written every bit of that myself. When I just got a new desktop at work, rather than install Kubuntu Hardy on it (no LTS) or Intrepid (no KDE 3.5.x, just 4.x), I installed Debian Testing. After being on *buntu since it came out, I'm now moving back to mainline Debian. I'm running KDE 3.5.9 in Testing while preparing to migrate over to GNOME. I don't like GNOME, really, but I hate it a lot less than I hate KDE 4.
There's just no future in KDE anymore, IMO. The devs don't care that most people don't like KDE 4 and want to stay on 3.5. They don't get (or maybe don't care) that KDE 4 is nowhere near ready for use by most users of 3.5. They're in love with 4 and its ideas (that they never ran by the user community before doing), and no longer care about or wish to support KDE 3.
KDE 4's theme has been compared to Vista. I compare KDE 4 to Vista in another way entirely. Like XP, KDE 3 was thrown under the bus in favor of a product that was basically a failure before it ever hit the shelves. The only difference is that more than a few people at Microsoft knew that Vista has serious problems, but it was shoved out the door because it was so far behind schedule and they had to ship *something* in time for the holiday season. With KDE 4, it seems like the KDE devs all believed they would be lionized by the entire FOSS world, and thus they were truly stunned when everyone who wasn't a complete fanboy said it sucked.
As of 4.1.1, it still sucks. 4.2 isn't going to be near enough. I predict it will take about 2 years from initial release before KDE 4 is really usable/useful. Contrast that to KDE 3.0, which blew 2.x away and converted me from a GNOME user to a KDE user the first time I tried it.
If the KDE devs have any sense, they will pull back and return KDE 3 to being the official current version. They're putting on all this BS about how 4 was s development release, but they're the ones who threw that alpha-quality POS at us and called it the new current version of KDE.
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Re(1): KDE Community Working Group takes care of the community
Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 63.251.108.100] on September 05, 2008 10:19 PMThere's just no future in KDE anymore, IMO. The devs don't care that most people don't like KDE 4 and want to stay on 3.5. They don't get (or maybe don't care) that KDE 4 is nowhere near ready for use by most users of 3.5. They're in love with 4 and its ideas (that they never ran by the user community before doing), and no longer care about or wish to support KDE 3.
KDE 4's theme has been compared to Vista. I compare KDE 4 to Vista in another way entirely. Like XP, KDE 3 was thrown under the bus in favor of a product that was basically a failure before it ever hit the shelves. The only difference is that more than a few people at Microsoft knew that Vista has serious problems, but it was shoved out the door because it was so far behind schedule and they had to ship *something* in time for the holiday season. With KDE 4, it seems like the KDE devs all believed they would be lionized by the entire FOSS world, and thus they were truly stunned when everyone who wasn't a complete fanboy said it sucked.
As of 4.1.1, it still sucks. 4.2 isn't going to be near enough. I predict it will take about 2 years from initial release before KDE 4 is really usable/useful. Contrast that to KDE 3.0, which blew 2.x away and converted me from a GNOME user to a KDE user the first time I tried it.
If the KDE devs have any sense, they will pull back and return KDE 3 to being the official current version. They're putting on all this BS about how 4 was s development release, but they're the ones who threw that alpha-quality POS at us and called it the new current version of KDE.
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