Posted by: Anonymous
[ip: 68.200.222.17]
on December 18, 2008 10:13 PM
Robin, please be a bit less disingenuous. Your wording makes it sound as though Spamhaus has started the, oh so familiar, move from free to closed and pay for use. That's just not the case. Spamhaus charges for their feed service which is a raw feed of their ENTIRE database content. It is a monumental amount of data that is intended for very large networks or mail systems that want to reduce or eliminate their DNS requests for checking RBLs by hosting the RBL in house. The bandwidth costs alone associated with providing this feed are huge so charging for it is not unreasonable.
Spamhaus' standard RBL service where you perform a DNS lookup, exactly like the Barracuda offering, is COMPLETELY free of charge as it always has been. It doesn't even require registration, like Barracuda does. Spamhaus has never made any indication that this would ever change. However, Barracuda's own site states that they only hope that it can remain free. As if they already have plans to monetize it and are simply waiting for the user base to grow to critical mass.
Contrary to your insinuation, small non-profits would not need or use the Spamhaus data feed. They would use the regular Spamhaus SBL just as they always have and just like most Spamhaus users do. Big mail systems like Yahoo! and big companies like Walmart might need and use the Spamhaus data feed but, most companies and small non-profits don't. Barracuda doesn't provide a datafeed service at all. Barracuda's offering is the same concept as Spamhaus' free offering. Perhaps Barracuda will offer a feed service in the future. But, I'll wager that it if it ever arrives won't be free either!
Finally there is Barracuda's pay to delist feature, mentioned in previous posts. This bogus technique was tried before by IronPort and AOL. With this pay for service, spammers can pay to be delisted or to bypass a company's spam filters. But, at $20 per year, Barracuda will lose so much money on it, they will surely discontinue the service.
Thanks anyway but, so far Spamhaus is still the best RBL. At least by my testing it has the highest trap rate and the lowest false positive rate and, contrary to Robin's insinuations, Spamhaus is still FREE!
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Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 68.200.222.17] on December 18, 2008 10:13 PMSpamhaus' standard RBL service where you perform a DNS lookup, exactly like the Barracuda offering, is COMPLETELY free of charge as it always has been. It doesn't even require registration, like Barracuda does. Spamhaus has never made any indication that this would ever change. However, Barracuda's own site states that they only hope that it can remain free. As if they already have plans to monetize it and are simply waiting for the user base to grow to critical mass.
Contrary to your insinuation, small non-profits would not need or use the Spamhaus data feed. They would use the regular Spamhaus SBL just as they always have and just like most Spamhaus users do. Big mail systems like Yahoo! and big companies like Walmart might need and use the Spamhaus data feed but, most companies and small non-profits don't. Barracuda doesn't provide a datafeed service at all. Barracuda's offering is the same concept as Spamhaus' free offering. Perhaps Barracuda will offer a feed service in the future. But, I'll wager that it if it ever arrives won't be free either!
Finally there is Barracuda's pay to delist feature, mentioned in previous posts. This bogus technique was tried before by IronPort and AOL. With this pay for service, spammers can pay to be delisted or to bypass a company's spam filters. But, at $20 per year, Barracuda will lose so much money on it, they will surely discontinue the service.
Thanks anyway but, so far Spamhaus is still the best RBL. At least by my testing it has the highest trap rate and the lowest false positive rate and, contrary to Robin's insinuations, Spamhaus is still FREE!
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