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Spawn of Debian faceoff: final chapter

By Joe Barr on February 05, 2004 (8:00:00 AM)

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This is the concluding piece in our recent "Spawn of Debian faceoff" series of reviews. We've looked at the latest offerings from LibraNet, LindowsOS, Mepis, and Xandros. Now we'll sit back and ponder what we've learned. We'll also ask for your help in rating criteria for future Linux reviews.

Background

All of the reviews were done on the same hardware: an inexpensive Linux box purchased at Frys Electronics. It came with an 800MHz VIA processor, 128MB DRAM, 30GB hard drive, 52X ATAPI CD-ROM drive, and a mainboard with built-in AC97 Codec sound, 3D Graphics Accelerator video, SiS630E chipset, and a 10BaseT/100BaseTX NIC. To that we added a Sampo Alphascan 711S 17-inch monitor. There were no hardware failures or issues during the reviews, and all the distributions performed adequately.

We compared the distributions in five categories: installation, connectivity, security, software maintenance, and (free or included) support. Where prices are shown, we used the retail price of the version of the distribution we tested. The average of these five scores was used as the final grade.

Installation

The ideal installation would be fast, a no-brainer even for noobies, but with sufficient granularity to let experienced and advanced users set things up to their own particular tastes. At the end of the installation, the ideal distribution would leave the user with a secure, fully connected, fully usable Linux desktop.

LindowsOS and Mepis tied for the top score in this category. LindowsOS ranked high because it was exceptionally easy to install, easier than any other tested. Mepis tied in this category because because it both easy to install and to offer more choices for experienced users.

Connectivity

Excluding things like keyboard, mouse, and monitor, the test environment required Internet access through a DHCP server elsewhere on the LAN and print capability on a CUPS printer connected to my regular desktop box. Top marks in connectivity again went to LindowsOS and Mepis. Both distributions connected to the Internet and to the shared printer without any user input. They just worked.

Security

The ideal in this category starts with the installation. Services should be off by default. A firewall should be enabled by default. Good security practices should be used and encouraged, especially in the division between super user and normal user. The final step of the installation process should be a real-time check for security fixes. Any security fixes found should automatically be applied. Following installation, it should be a very easy task for the user to manually check for and apply such fixes, and they should be encouraged to do just that.

Mepis and Xandros tied for the top score in Security. MEPIS installs itself behind a firewall and enforces good security practices. By default, almost all exposed services are turned off. Xandros also encourages good security. When you are running the GUI as root, for example, the desktop background is a bright red of warning. While Xandros did not install a firewall, it was nearly perfect otherwise. Users are strongly encouraged to check for and install security updates during installation finalization. Applying them is as easy as a single click.

Software Maintenance

When it comes to Software Maintenance, LindowsOS and Xandros are the class of the field. Click N Run is about as good as it gets in ease of use. Xandros Networks is right up there with it.

Support

Support is the final piece of the puzzle. Mepis and Xandros were rated tops in this regard. Mepis users get online support in the forums at the Mepis website. In fact, Warren X, the distribution's creator, is very active there helping Mepis users with various problems. There are also more than a dozen Mepis-specific HowTo's available at the site. There is also a #mepis channel on IRC at irc.freenode.net.

Xandros includes 30/60 days of email tech support depending on whether you've purchased the standard of the deluxe edition. The website provides a FAQ, searchable knowledge base, and a user forum. Like Mepis, Xandros has an IRC channel at irc.freenode.net.

Conclusions

One thing is certain, Debian provides the DNA for some excellent Linux distributions. Mepis emerged as the final victor with a rating of 92. LindowsOS came in second, with an 88, barely nosing out Xandros who scored 87. LibraNet rounded out the field with an 80.

Another thing for certain: just looking at the score doesn't begin to do justice to the distributions. They are all very good. In that spirit, I am going to make some special awards that go above and beyond the criteria used for comparison.

LindowsOS

LindowsOS is the one I would recommend to friends who want to migrate from Windows to Linux, so I proclaim it as Best Distro for Noobies. As I noted in the review, I didn't really expect to find such a good Linux offering. Hopefully in the future, LindowsOS will gain more credibility on the Linux street as being a good distribution. They need more than anything the community involvement and support that almost every other Linux distribution enjoys.

Mepis

The little distro from West Virginia that rocks. Mepis came out on top by scoring well in every category. I don't believe it has any weak points, and I sense a community building around it that could really give it a boost in number of faithful. I bestow upon Mepis the Most Likely to Succeed award.

Xandros

Except for some bad luck in my testbed printing environment which exposed a bug in a critical part of the installation, Xandros could have been top dog. It's great looking and has appeal to both noobies and longtime Linux users. I give it the Best Looking Distro award.

LibraNet

Don't think by the score that I don't have good things to say about LibraNet, because I do. And I'm not the only one. This distro is not the best choice for noobies. But it has the single most impressive configuration tool of any distribution I've seen - not just the ones included in this series. The LibraNet AdminMenu is a clean, elegant, powerful tool for tuning just about every aspect of your system. I give LibraNet the coveted This is the one Debian users would pick award.

Your turn

OK, I've had my say. Now I'd like to hear from you. Did the faceoff format work for you? Would you like to see reviews done in a similar manner in the future? What about the criteria? How would change or add or delete categories? Should security be given more weight than installation? Are the number of apps installed more important than which apps are installed? Please, let us hear your feedback in comments.

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Spawn of Debian My .02 Euros

Posted by: Administrator on February 05, 2004 11:46 PM
After reading the article I tend to concur with the observations. I have been using Libranet 2.8 on my Linux User Group Web Server for about a year (+/-) now and have found it to be quick and secure. The price wasn't so bad but I buy prety much every distro (except for free downloads) that comes along.



My group has a rapacious appetite for Installathons and reviews. This months meeting I am bringing the latest of Mepis, Xandros, Slackware, and Mandrake 10 RC. Hardware is always an issue and we change constantly. All my home boxes run differnt distros. One has SuSE 9.0 Pro, one has Mandrake 10 RC, another has Slackware 9.1, and still another has Xandros for evaluation.



So, I guess you can say my experience is pretty broad as far as installs and use go. I used Redhat 4.2 first but quickly checked out a lot of other distros to get this breadth of experience. After Redhat 4.2 is when I started the User Group and we have been going strong ever since.



Mepis is fairly new to me so I can't profess to have done more than two installs. Knoppix has been a pet project to use to train people on Linux. It is a great tool to walk into a lab full of Windoze boxes and have Linux running in no time on all machines (as long as my burner holds out).



Anyway to get to the point. My two outstanding issues that I would love to see resolved would be these:



1. At work, I am behind a firewall and can't seem to modify my Libranet apt-get configuration files to get past the firewall to FTP upgrades. A cool tool to set this up would be great. I would even settle for a shell script that would "wizard" through the process. something like enter "FTP proxy name", Enter FTP Proxy port", "Enter Proxy login (if required) and press Return", and then it would write the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.conf file. Maybe even check the connection? That would be a great tool, and best if implemented like a PPP setup wizard.



2. I am a very paranoid person when it comes to M$ (actually that is not paranoia as they really are out to get me/my money). So, when Corel accepts some $130 million dollars from M$ and then "spins off" Xandros as a separate company as a condition of the deal, I get a little worried. Could this be M$es back door into the Linux market "just in case"? If M$ software eventually falls out of favor and Linux rules the world, if they have they fingers in it already they can stem the tide a bit. I told you I was paranoid.



I have actually purchased Xandros 2.0 Deluxe in order to evaluate. I also bought 1.0. The part that was most impressive was that here at work, I am able to use the File Manager which is touted as their "killer app" to browse all the SMB and NFS shares and quickly search and attach to them. I liked this but it also brings up another point. With Xandros you must get upgrades from their Click n Run warehouse. If you were to just attempt to upgrade KDE from the KDE site or a mirror, you would probably break Xandros.



With Libranet, you can go directly to Debian and get your fixes without worry. So, apt-get/Synaptic is a better "killer app" IMHO.



The importsant thing is that there is a choice of Linuxen and we can all probably find a flavor we like.



Keep your mind and your Source Open.



Well, back to work.



Doctor Digital

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Re:Spawn of Debian My .02 Euros

Posted by: Administrator on February 06, 2004 02:45 AM
I can testify (at least with xandros 1) upgrading with apt-get doesn't break it, I upgraded to debian unstable from xandros 1 without any problems. personally, I just review these distros, i use gentoo/pure debian on all my computers, but some look promising. I never liked LindowsOS though, of course my first experience was running as root by default, which people have told me has been fixed. Also, upgrading to debian unstable broke it pretty badly, as opposed to xandros. Personally though, I wish Xandros would open source XFM, it is a superb application, and it would really help them in the eyes of the open source community if they contributed some back, instead of take, take, take...

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Great summary

Posted by: Administrator on February 05, 2004 07:19 PM
I agree with your points for the most part. I'm not sure about the updating part since all are based on Debian and you could simply fire up Kpackage or Synaptic.
Having used all of the above, I rated Libranet the highest and Mepis second. Libranet worked great for me and the community in the forums are excellent. The authors emailed me back the same day when I had a problem with an onboard nVidia card.
Saying that, I opted for Mepis. Why? I use Mepis because of a category you left unmentioned, PRICE. The others have a much higher cost. Even the upgrade price is steep. $70.00 plus dollars for a distro and with Lindows you also have to pay for the software you install. You could just use software from the Debian repositories, but it breaks Lindows in a lot of the cases.
Mepis is not at the same level in features as the others, but will soon be. Libranet Admin-menu is fantastic! Even Compiling the kernel is a snap. But the cost is a bit too steep. I felt like I was buying XP Home when I bought Libranet.
Mepis, on the other hand, is affordable, full of features and Warren has got to be the best one man operation out there! He is contantly improving Mepis and really listens to the community.
I'll miss libranet, but am very happy with Mepis.

BTW - for your next project, how about reviewing all of the Personal Finance managers out there? QHACC, KHACC, GNUCASH, Checkbook Tracker, and MoneyDance are the most popular. A comparison to Quicken as the standard will give a good insight where this group of applications stand.

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Lindows

Posted by: Administrator on February 06, 2004 11:44 AM
I use Lindows laptop edition just for the fact that they are being sued by MS and have the balls to stand up and fight. It's ease of use on the Laptop is much appreciated, and with Click N Run to keep things updated on the road it's great.

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Re:Lindows

Posted by: Administrator on February 14, 2004 01:54 AM
I have to disagree with you about community. I have not found a stronger, more active community than the Lindows community. Did you ever read the forums?? Based on your review it appears that you didn't...

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Libranet #1

Posted by: Administrator on February 09, 2004 03:22 AM
I have to disagree with your conclusions. The support issue I feel should be wayed more heavily. Libranet support solutions and the support forums are so far superior to Mepis. Email support is extremely quick and curteous. I suggest to try finding answers via Mepis and Libranet and see which route is more thorough, quicker, and accurate.
Regards,

Peter,
Vancouver.

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