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Ubuntu needs to launch ad campaign in N.A.: Linux != Red Hat.

I'm not sure if it is related to US being over top religious, but many people there still believe that Linux is RH.

Also, one may not forget that RHEL has deep penetration in corporations and Fedora is what RH recommends as free (as in "free beer") alternative to their RHELD (Desktop) which is bundled with support subscription. I'm always modded down for saying that (and there are apparently people who actually like Fedora), yet all people I know personally who use Fedora use it solely because their companies standardized (like in "vendor lock-in") on RHEL and only RH approved software is may be used. And guess that Fedora is only free - approved by RH - option.

What I'm getting to, is that people who use Ubuntu made a choice. Most Fedora users are just got "The Linux" shipped from HQ and are not allowed to ask questions nor voice their opinion.

P.S. Surprisingly to me, many *nix veterans after witnessing their companies adopting RHEL, recalled old days with proprietary *nix forcing companies into vendor lock-in. If you read their support agreement, it is very very far from being anything "open" or "free" and simply intends to scare customers from ever changing anything in theirs RHELs, barring people from the freedom of choice - essentially what F/LOSS is revolving around.

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I am currently an Ubuntu User (from 8.04 now 8.10). Have been using Fedora core 4,5,6,7,8(I simply luv FC6 and F8) and F9 crashed on my VIA K8 ..so tried 8.04 LTS and i luved it GUI-LY. I hate ubuntu when in command line mode..coz I have to learn all stuff all-over again(ditto for FreeBSD..two commands to mount a cd ..give me a break). I was shocked initially by seeing that ubuntu have no /etc/inittab& iptables or firewall utilities(i took months to find that a shy ufw existed and its as obscure as firewall service hidden in winxp-sp1). The good things i find in ubuntu are 1) stable GUI and 2) super-duper community. I have never really posted a problem on ubuntu forums..just search google and somebody already have posted in different ways in two or more threads..While using fedora (as a happy user of fc6 and F8) was sick with ubuntu talk everywhere like Barack Obama(now wikipedia too hav become a ubuntu fanboy) and when searching for a problem in fedora, i usually end up in ubuntuforum which is very cleanly and neatly given. But I believe ubuntu is very far from a noob machine. it has no command-line one-stop tool like "setup" or ntsysv (sysv-rc-conf is strangely not installed by default). Its partial implementation of event-based upstart is confusing to an avg user like me. I still like sys-v. since fedora is also going after upstart..its a no contest..just my thoughts

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@ Dummy00001
You deserve to modded down for your statements. They just sound like the bitter ramblings from Red Hat competition. Maybe you could provide some evidence for your "Most Fedora users are just got 'The Linux' shipped from HQ" rambling? I use Fedora, and the reason I use it is because I like it. My boss uses and like Ubuntu. My brother uses Red Hat at work and Ubuntu at home.

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Dummy0001 aside, this is interesting but it doesn't actually mean much and cannot be used to compare marketshare with "The Microsoft". These figures are for users - not installs. I myself run 4 copies of Fedora on 2 laptops, 1 laptot and 1 desktop. These, I assume, are counted as one user.

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Oh boy, watch all the uglybuntu fan bois come out on this one!!

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