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Study: Open Source alive and well at Navy office, perhaps more to come

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-By Grant Gross -
The Naval Oceanographic Office already uses Linux and other Open Source tools for a variety of functions, and it could use them even more after it receives recommendations from the Open-Source Software Institute, due out by the end of the year.
The Naval Oceanographic Office [NAVOCEANO] is working with OSSI on a comprehensive assessment of the Navy center's use of Open Source software, and researchers have identified several areas where Linux is used, including the data collection computers on NAVOCEANO's survey ships, which collect ocean data from a dozens of instruments. The office also uses Linux for visualization systems, storage systems, and on some desktops, says Andrew Aitken of Olliance Consulting Group, which is helping OSSI with the NAVOCEANO study.

OSSI officials hope to have a series of additional Open Source recommendations available for the office by the end of the year.

In the case of the data collection computers on survey ships, Linux on Intel machines is costing 10% of the former RISC-based systems, Aitken told a crowd of government workers at a Tuesday workshop on Open Source and e-government sponsored by the U.S. General Services Administration and the Cyberspace Policy Institute at The George Washington University.

"Linux-based systems are saving time, improving effectiveness, and reducing the platform diversity," Aitken said.

Also at the Tuesday meeting, OSSI announced that Hewlett-Packard has committed to be a major sponsor of the institute itself and of the Navy study. Other major sponsors include Intel and the Open Source Development Group.

This development agreement between the Navy office and OSSI, launched in November 2001, is the first for OSSI, which has the mission of advocating Open Source software to government agencies and educational institutions. John Weathersby, OSSI founder and chairman, says his group is talking to other government agencies about similar agreements, and he continues to advocate Open Source software in visits to Capitol Hill.

"I kind of consider myself the social chairman of the Open Source community," Weathersby said in his Mississippi accent. "I try to put the right people together in a room, go mix a drink, and say, 'y'all have fun.'"

Weathersby's message to those who'll listen is that Open Source is a viable alternative technology, but he realizes that he's pitching technology to politicians who often have little experience with it, in places where one of the rules of the road is, "it's who you know." He can speak the politicians' language because he's a businessman, not a technologist, he said.

"I realize that if we have materials I can understand, they might could be understood by someone on the Hill," he said. "What I'm trying to do is promote the good ol' boys club between government and the Open Source community."

OSSI has completed the first phase of its NAVOCEANO study, identifying where Open Source software is being used there, although it's still hard to peg percentages on how prevalent it is at the agency. NAVOCEANO CIO John Lever says Open Source probably won't work for all the agency's needs -- for example, he believes commercial geographic information system software still offers more functionality than its Open Source counterparts, although the office does use several Open Source GIS packages, too.

"Adoption of Open Source software has arrived in a controlled ad hoc basis," Aitken said. "In some circumstances, it's been proven to be just as robust, stable and secure as proprietary platforms."

The next step for OSSI is an analysis of what software NAVOCEANO is using and where it would make sense for Open Source to replace proprietary software. In the third phase of the project, OSSI will recommend ways NAVOCEANO can benefit from the Open Source development model and how Navy workers can contribute to outside Open Source projects.

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NMCI

Posted by: schmidm77 on July 17, 2002 09:23 PM
Uhhh, both the Navy and Marine Corps are, within the next year, going online with NMCI (Navy/Marine Corps Intranet). This is an entirely Windows 2000 based network that is being designed and implemented by a contractor, along with a complete replacement of all computer hardware assets. So I doubt that Linux is going to be making much of an impact on these services at least. Maybe the Air Farse would be interested more in Linux as there is a fairly strong UNIX following there.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: Grant Gross on July 17, 2002 09:46 PM
I don't think anyone's suggesting the Navy will totally dump everything else for Linux and Open Source. On the other hand, NAVOCEANO is using Linux already in several areas and is receptive to expanding its use in areas where it makes sense to do so.

Grant

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 17, 2002 10:28 PM
Government Contractor = free access to tax payer money.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: schmidm77 on July 17, 2002 10:51 PM
No.

Government Contractor = more Marines and Sailors that are free to fight wars.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 12:41 AM
no.

Government contractor == free access to taxpayer dollars.

The hammers, toilet seats, etc., all the way up to computer systems.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: schmidm77 on July 18, 2002 01:15 AM
You're right, it is much more important to use government money stolen from taxpayers to fund these huge welfare states that are all the rage across Europe and with some here in the U.S. What was I thinking?

Here's a quick lesson on the military for you. For every job in garrision that a military member is required to perform full time (cooks, network administrators, etc.), that is one less person that can devote his full attention to training for and fighting wars. This is why there is an effort to move these kinds of jobs over to contractors. Besides, a Marine who is running the network also has many other things that he is required to do as a Marine that takes away from him being most effective in that networking job.

Hiring contractors is a no brainer for these types of things.

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actually

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 02:42 AM
I actually don't have an issue with contractors in the military; it was more of a joke than anything serious. I think that, generally, employees of the military should be soldiers, sailors, etc. doing the job of the military, preparing for conflict.
In fact, I was thinking it might be a better idea to scrap the separate branches of the military we currently have and establish a unified military for the US. Having multiple, separate command and control structures, breaucracies, etc. is a waste of money. I want the most defense for the least amount of money, so having separate branches of military with duplicated overhead makes no sense anymore.

And while we're at it, we should scrap some of the more useless weapons procurement projects we're currently engaged in. The Osprey, for instance, appears to serve no purpose apart from periodically killing marines in tests. Also, national missle defense is a gargantuan waste of cash. And whoever tells you differently is selling something, probably involving expensive hardware.

I'd rather have the tax dollars I pay spent on social programs, particularly universal healthcare. I'm not entirely naive, I realize that the above suggestions couldn't happen because there's too much political wrangling involved.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 12:45 AM
where are all these sailors and marines?

slick willie cut the military so deep, you'd have to hire contractors...

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just remember

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 04:30 AM
That there's a congress involved in passing all bugetary legislation. Anyone there could have said something. So don't lay all the blame on one man, however little you might like him personally.

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Re:NMCI

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 04:22 AM
From what I've heard, the initial NMCI deployment has been horrible. The effort at our site just to prepare for the change has been very inefficient and a huge waste of resources. I do think that network managed plain vanilla PC's are a good idea for non-technical users, but the Navy could save a ton of money by using Linux/Open Source software instead. All the admin of the NMCI machines is going to be done by IT staff anyways, so difficult configuration problems wouldn't be an issue.

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Actually NMCI has little impact on LINUX use

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 01:14 AM

I've worked with Navy for over a year now and with this command for the last five months. NMCI affects only existing Windows 2000 servers and and clients. The Navy has a number of computers (over half the servers where I work) running various forms of *NIX (HP-UX, Solaris, Linux and even FreeBSD).


If anything NMCI will prompt more Linux useage because all the current administrators will have half as many computers to manage. Ideally NMCI would remove all tech support from the Navy, but with all the *NIX machines, many commands are forced to keep them. With less computers to manage, they have more time to play with Linux. The command I work with is currently in the process of moving all the HP-UX servers to Linux and FreeBSD, not only for meanial file server roles.


The best part: I run SuSE 8.0 on my classified desktop.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)


Don



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Re:Actually NMCI has little impact on LINUX use

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 03:03 AM
The best part: I run SuSE 8.0 on my classified desktop.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

Shhhhh...your not suppose to tell...

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Re:Actually NMCI has little impact on LINUX use

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 18, 2002 04:58 AM
do you have to shoot us now?

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