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Review: Morphix 0.3.4
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April 28, 2003 (8:00:00 AM)
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- by Norbert Cartagena -
To be honest, I haven't enjoyed using many Debian-based Linux distributions. The same goes for LiveCD versions of Linux, which let you boot and run the operating system directly from the CD-ROM without repartitioning your hard drive. As with Debian-based distros, I usually can't get LiveCD distros working right. So it was with some caution I approached <SLASH HREF="http://www.morphix.org/" ID="67a9b888959fe5ddce69ab91cfd76246" TITLE="" TYPE="LINK">Morphix</SLASH> 0.3.4, a Debian-based LiveCD distribution out of Holland. To my surprise, I actually like it, because it actually worked -- mostly. It's good enough to be used by home users who just want to surf the 'net, write some papers, and play games.
To be honest, I haven't enjoyed using many Debian-based Linux distributions. The same goes for LiveCD versions of Linux, which let you boot and run the operating system directly from the CD-ROM without repartitioning your hard drive. As with Debian-based distros, I usually can't get LiveCD distros working right. So it was with some caution I approached <SLASH HREF="http://www.morphix.org/" ID="67a9b888959fe5ddce69ab91cfd76246" TITLE="" TYPE="LINK">Morphix</SLASH> 0.3.4, a Debian-based LiveCD distribution out of Holland. To my surprise, I actually like it, because it actually worked -- mostly. It's good enough to be used by home users who just want to surf the 'net, write some papers, and play games.
The equipment
I tested Morphix on the following systems:
I also attempted to use Morphix on my Dell Inspiron 8000 (650MHz Pentium III, ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF), but it failed on boot, citing an inability to find a monitor. This was the first time I've had this problem with Linux on this laptop, although I've had it on others. After talking to the developers, they admitted some frustration with Dell's BIOS.
Installation
There are four downloadable ISO modules currently available at the Morphix.org site: LightGUI, HeavyGUI, KDE, and Game. Practically speaking, all but Morphix Game do the same thing, serving as home desktop solutions. The question of which one you use is really a matter of what you prefer. Do you want speed or pretty graphics? Do you prefer KDE, GNOME, or IceWM? What about OpenOffice, KOffice, and GNOME Office?
As with all LiveCD distributions, installation consisted of me placing the program disk in the automatic cup holder and rebooting. After a couple of minutes, I was ready to go.
Once I was up and running, it was pretty smooth sailing. Still, in addition to the laptop errors, I also encountered the following error after the boot up of Tower II: "/dev/dsp not found." In other words, my sound card wasn't being recognized, so I couldn't listen to CDs, MPGs or Ogg Vorbis files. That annoyance aside, everything else seemed in order.
Besides just being a LiveCD distribution, you can use Morphix's "Install to Hard Disk" feature to run Morphix like any other distribution. Oddly enough, the installation feature is only available once you're up and running. Be careful, though -- the installer is so complex that it may require you to consult your local Linux guru. This feature could use a complete overhaul, with an easy-to-use graphical user interface to better match the rest of the tools on the disk.
Morphix LightGUI
I had only a limited amount of RAM to deal with, so I decided to start with LightGUI, which includes a number of basic tools and aims at being fast even on older hardware. With a total ISO footprint of 187.13MB, the distribution is small enough to fit on a Mini-CD. It uses IceWM as its graphical user environment, Rox as its file manager, Phoenix as its Web browser, Sylpheed as its e-mail client, and includes a number of other necessities: MPlayer, AbiWord, Gnumeric, XMMS, Gaim, gFTP, and more.
The one thing that stuck with me about LightGUI was its sheer working speed, even on Tower I, which had only 192MB of RAM. At one point I was viewing a movie straight from CD with MPlayer, browsing the Web with Phoenix, testing AbiWord, and trying to acquire a screenshot with the GIMP, having already downloaded four files from Vorbis.com, all the while experiencing very little lag in the way of application functionality. Sure, there was some latency when I tried to open another application, but that's to be expected, given all that I was doing.
I was so impressed by LightGUI that I decided to use the GIMP to take a screenshot of all the stuff that was going on. Sadly, I was unable to get it due to a system error, which only occurred in this module. Previously, there had also been a printing system error which at first I thought was in AbiWord ("Font data file... cannot be opened for reading!"). I couldn't print through any other method, including command-line tools. It became apparent later that printing was a problem with all of the modules.
The major downside of the LightGUI is the general user un-friendliness of IceWM. The Morphix team has done a marvelous job of taking IceWM and Rox, neither of which is particularly famous for its ease of use, and making a distribution almost anyone with a computer can use without much help. Still, there is room for improvement. You can check out the wiki road map to see where they're going.
LightGUI is fine for anyone interested in trying out Linux, but who doesn't have access to a very powerful system. Those who do have access to something with a bit more muscle should try one of the modules with a more developed user interface a try.
Morphix HeavyGUI
HeavyGUI is where I spent most of my time. In fact, as I write this, I'm using the Mozilla Composer included in HeavyGUI, running on Tower II. Instead of using the IceWM/Rox combination, HeavyGUI uses GNOME 2.2 as its desktop environment with Metacity as its window manager. The tools included are the standard GNOME tools plus a few extra toys that make the package complete. The module includes both the Galeon Web browser and the Mozilla suite, Ximian's Evolution mail client, OpenOffice, XMMS, Xine, the GIMP, WINE, a bunch of GNOME games, and a ton of other general-purpose software.
As part of the review I decided to have my family, a group of mostly quasi-computer-literate people, give Morphix HeavyGUI a try. Not only were they impressed with the tools (especially the number of games), they were also amazed by the speed of the system which, although slower than LightGUI, was surprisingly fast. Generally speaking, they didn't really notice the software they were using, which is a big plus. They just did what they wanted to do.
One of the biggest advantages of using GNOME or KDE, as opposed to IceWM, is the fact that both desktop environments are so well developed that they smooth out whatever the developers don't. After all, why re-invent the automount when you can just have GNOME or KDE do it for you? Unfortunately, both KDE and GNOME are resource-intensive, which is why most people with less than 256MB of RAM will probably find LightGUI more usable.
Morphix KDE
On the other side of the resource-hungry GUI spectrum is KDE. Although I'm not a big KDE fan I was impressed with what I saw. The Morphix team did a great job of setting up KDE to be comfortable to the eye and easy to use. As you might guess, this module comes with KDE 3.1.0 as its default desktop environment. Included also are the myriad tools in the "K" world: Konqueror Web browser, KOffice (Kword, Kpresenter, Kchart, etc.), and the "K" games. Also included were the Mozilla suite, Gaim, Quanta, and a few more non-"K" tools. I was surprised to find no native KDE e-mail client included with this module. For that, the Mozilla Mail program is available.
Although both GNOME and KDE are resource-hungry, KDE was the slower of the two. I couldn't tell the difference in Tower II, but it was clear once I started using KDE on Tower I. Mind you, the system ran fast enough for what I was doing, but I noticed a little jumpiness when I started doing too many things at a time, like listen to an Ogg with XMMS and opening up Konqueror. It was about this time that I began to appreciate LightGUI.
Morphix Game
Finally, there is the oddball in the bunch: Morphix Game. This module isn't meant to be a home use distribution so much as it is a portable game box. The window manager is IceWM and it has no file manager, just to keep things light. Its bulk comes from the sheer number of included games: demos of Quiake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament 2003, various versions of Doom, Tux Racer, LinCity, XBill, TuxPaint, and about fifty others. Other than games, the only things you'll find are a couple of system configuration tools, Mozilla (just the browser), and Galeon.
What surprised me most about this module was how well it ran on Tower I's ATI All-In-Wonder 128 with only 8MB of on-board RAM, and how badly it ran on Tower II's nVidia-compatible 3DForce4 with 128MB of on-board DDR. On Tower I, the Quake demo ran better than I could have hoped, as did Tux Racer and the game console emulators. On Tower II, Tux Racer ran too slowly to be playable and the Quake demo wouldn't even start. Unreal Tournament was out of the question on both -- it would crash on both after loading. Other games where 3D came into play were generally unusable in Tower II, yet ran well on Tower I.
Summary and suggestions
I was impressed with what I saw in Morphix -- a LiveCD distribution that could be used not only by curious home users and Linux evangelists, but by businesses wishing to set up ultra-cheap workstations. Imagine having the workstations at your office loaded up with RAM, not needing a hard drive, and having everyone able to carry their systems around on a CD-ROM. You'd need only a file server, while all the applications ran safely from the desktops of users. As soon as the users powered off their systems, all the unnecessary information would be erased, eliminating wasted local storage space while safely keeping users' information on a secured central server. Users could move to any desktop with their disk and get up and running as if they had never moved. With the distribution being Debian-based, licensing issues wouldn't be a problem. Just don't expect to run an Apache server or firewall with Morphix just yet (though a server module is planned for Morphix 0.4).
Morphix has a number of bugs the developers need to work out. I had trouble printing, burning CDs, and using USB peripherals. And there are still a number of very rough edges; for instance, to mount a CD-RW you have to go to the command line and type:
Is Morphix up to par yet with SuSE, Red Hat, or Debian? No, although it beat Debian in the one way that mattered most, by not erasing my hard drive. I don't expect brand new users to be living in Morphix just yet, but it is a good way for casual users to get familiar with Linux operating environments.
I tested Morphix on the following systems:
| Computer Name: | Tower I |
Tower II |
| Processor: | 450MHz Pentium III | Athlon 2100 XP |
| RAM: | 192MB PC100 SDRAM | 1GB 2700 DDR |
| Monitor: | KDS AV-195T | AOC 9Glr |
| Hard Disks: | Western Digital 40GB | (swappable) 2x Western Digital 40GB (swappable) Western Digital 10GB |
| Video Card: | ATI All-In-Wonder 128 8MB | 3DForce4 Ti4200 128MB DDR (8xAGP, GeForce4 compatible) |
| Sound Card: | Creative Labs Live! Value 5.1 | On-board Intel AC'97 2.2 compatible. |
| Network Card: | Realtek RT8029(AS) | On-board VT6103 10/100 LAN 3Com 10/100 PCI |
| Modem: | Generic WinModem | none |
| CD/CD-RW/DVD: | Creative Blaster CD 52X CenDyne 24x10x40 CD-RW |
Samsung SW-248F 48x24x48 CD-RW Samsung 16X DVD |
| Printer: | HP DeskJet 832C | None |
I also attempted to use Morphix on my Dell Inspiron 8000 (650MHz Pentium III, ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF), but it failed on boot, citing an inability to find a monitor. This was the first time I've had this problem with Linux on this laptop, although I've had it on others. After talking to the developers, they admitted some frustration with Dell's BIOS.
Installation
There are four downloadable ISO modules currently available at the Morphix.org site: LightGUI, HeavyGUI, KDE, and Game. Practically speaking, all but Morphix Game do the same thing, serving as home desktop solutions. The question of which one you use is really a matter of what you prefer. Do you want speed or pretty graphics? Do you prefer KDE, GNOME, or IceWM? What about OpenOffice, KOffice, and GNOME Office?
As with all LiveCD distributions, installation consisted of me placing the program disk in the automatic cup holder and rebooting. After a couple of minutes, I was ready to go.
Once I was up and running, it was pretty smooth sailing. Still, in addition to the laptop errors, I also encountered the following error after the boot up of Tower II: "/dev/dsp not found." In other words, my sound card wasn't being recognized, so I couldn't listen to CDs, MPGs or Ogg Vorbis files. That annoyance aside, everything else seemed in order.
Besides just being a LiveCD distribution, you can use Morphix's "Install to Hard Disk" feature to run Morphix like any other distribution. Oddly enough, the installation feature is only available once you're up and running. Be careful, though -- the installer is so complex that it may require you to consult your local Linux guru. This feature could use a complete overhaul, with an easy-to-use graphical user interface to better match the rest of the tools on the disk.
Morphix LightGUI
I had only a limited amount of RAM to deal with, so I decided to start with LightGUI, which includes a number of basic tools and aims at being fast even on older hardware. With a total ISO footprint of 187.13MB, the distribution is small enough to fit on a Mini-CD. It uses IceWM as its graphical user environment, Rox as its file manager, Phoenix as its Web browser, Sylpheed as its e-mail client, and includes a number of other necessities: MPlayer, AbiWord, Gnumeric, XMMS, Gaim, gFTP, and more.
The one thing that stuck with me about LightGUI was its sheer working speed, even on Tower I, which had only 192MB of RAM. At one point I was viewing a movie straight from CD with MPlayer, browsing the Web with Phoenix, testing AbiWord, and trying to acquire a screenshot with the GIMP, having already downloaded four files from Vorbis.com, all the while experiencing very little lag in the way of application functionality. Sure, there was some latency when I tried to open another application, but that's to be expected, given all that I was doing.
I was so impressed by LightGUI that I decided to use the GIMP to take a screenshot of all the stuff that was going on. Sadly, I was unable to get it due to a system error, which only occurred in this module. Previously, there had also been a printing system error which at first I thought was in AbiWord ("Font data file... cannot be opened for reading!"). I couldn't print through any other method, including command-line tools. It became apparent later that printing was a problem with all of the modules.
The major downside of the LightGUI is the general user un-friendliness of IceWM. The Morphix team has done a marvelous job of taking IceWM and Rox, neither of which is particularly famous for its ease of use, and making a distribution almost anyone with a computer can use without much help. Still, there is room for improvement. You can check out the wiki road map to see where they're going.
LightGUI is fine for anyone interested in trying out Linux, but who doesn't have access to a very powerful system. Those who do have access to something with a bit more muscle should try one of the modules with a more developed user interface a try.
Morphix HeavyGUI
HeavyGUI is where I spent most of my time. In fact, as I write this, I'm using the Mozilla Composer included in HeavyGUI, running on Tower II. Instead of using the IceWM/Rox combination, HeavyGUI uses GNOME 2.2 as its desktop environment with Metacity as its window manager. The tools included are the standard GNOME tools plus a few extra toys that make the package complete. The module includes both the Galeon Web browser and the Mozilla suite, Ximian's Evolution mail client, OpenOffice, XMMS, Xine, the GIMP, WINE, a bunch of GNOME games, and a ton of other general-purpose software.
As part of the review I decided to have my family, a group of mostly quasi-computer-literate people, give Morphix HeavyGUI a try. Not only were they impressed with the tools (especially the number of games), they were also amazed by the speed of the system which, although slower than LightGUI, was surprisingly fast. Generally speaking, they didn't really notice the software they were using, which is a big plus. They just did what they wanted to do.
One of the biggest advantages of using GNOME or KDE, as opposed to IceWM, is the fact that both desktop environments are so well developed that they smooth out whatever the developers don't. After all, why re-invent the automount when you can just have GNOME or KDE do it for you? Unfortunately, both KDE and GNOME are resource-intensive, which is why most people with less than 256MB of RAM will probably find LightGUI more usable.
Morphix KDE
On the other side of the resource-hungry GUI spectrum is KDE. Although I'm not a big KDE fan I was impressed with what I saw. The Morphix team did a great job of setting up KDE to be comfortable to the eye and easy to use. As you might guess, this module comes with KDE 3.1.0 as its default desktop environment. Included also are the myriad tools in the "K" world: Konqueror Web browser, KOffice (Kword, Kpresenter, Kchart, etc.), and the "K" games. Also included were the Mozilla suite, Gaim, Quanta, and a few more non-"K" tools. I was surprised to find no native KDE e-mail client included with this module. For that, the Mozilla Mail program is available.
Although both GNOME and KDE are resource-hungry, KDE was the slower of the two. I couldn't tell the difference in Tower II, but it was clear once I started using KDE on Tower I. Mind you, the system ran fast enough for what I was doing, but I noticed a little jumpiness when I started doing too many things at a time, like listen to an Ogg with XMMS and opening up Konqueror. It was about this time that I began to appreciate LightGUI.
Morphix Game
Finally, there is the oddball in the bunch: Morphix Game. This module isn't meant to be a home use distribution so much as it is a portable game box. The window manager is IceWM and it has no file manager, just to keep things light. Its bulk comes from the sheer number of included games: demos of Quiake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament 2003, various versions of Doom, Tux Racer, LinCity, XBill, TuxPaint, and about fifty others. Other than games, the only things you'll find are a couple of system configuration tools, Mozilla (just the browser), and Galeon.
What surprised me most about this module was how well it ran on Tower I's ATI All-In-Wonder 128 with only 8MB of on-board RAM, and how badly it ran on Tower II's nVidia-compatible 3DForce4 with 128MB of on-board DDR. On Tower I, the Quake demo ran better than I could have hoped, as did Tux Racer and the game console emulators. On Tower II, Tux Racer ran too slowly to be playable and the Quake demo wouldn't even start. Unreal Tournament was out of the question on both -- it would crash on both after loading. Other games where 3D came into play were generally unusable in Tower II, yet ran well on Tower I.
Summary and suggestions
I was impressed with what I saw in Morphix -- a LiveCD distribution that could be used not only by curious home users and Linux evangelists, but by businesses wishing to set up ultra-cheap workstations. Imagine having the workstations at your office loaded up with RAM, not needing a hard drive, and having everyone able to carry their systems around on a CD-ROM. You'd need only a file server, while all the applications ran safely from the desktops of users. As soon as the users powered off their systems, all the unnecessary information would be erased, eliminating wasted local storage space while safely keeping users' information on a secured central server. Users could move to any desktop with their disk and get up and running as if they had never moved. With the distribution being Debian-based, licensing issues wouldn't be a problem. Just don't expect to run an Apache server or firewall with Morphix just yet (though a server module is planned for Morphix 0.4).
Morphix has a number of bugs the developers need to work out. I had trouble printing, burning CDs, and using USB peripherals. And there are still a number of very rough edges; for instance, to mount a CD-RW you have to go to the command line and type:
sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdr1 /mnt/cdromAt the same time, certain recently added features show Morphix's potential. A screen resolution tool allows you to quickly switch between resolutions, while the session save feature allows you to save your personal settings on a hard drive or diskette for future sessions. In time, innovative features like these will make Morphix one heck of a distribution.
Is Morphix up to par yet with SuSE, Red Hat, or Debian? No, although it beat Debian in the one way that mattered most, by not erasing my hard drive. I don't expect brand new users to be living in Morphix just yet, but it is a good way for casual users to get familiar with Linux operating environments.
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I'm guessing that you're using some version of 32-bit Windows. Download it like you would download a zip archive, and then just use Easy CD Creator to burn it to CD. Easy CD Creator is exactly what you want to have open up in this case. Back in my Windows days, that was the program that I used for burning CDs.
In other words, you're on the right track.
In other words, you're on the right track.
I assume you downloaded an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso file.
From the file menu of Easy CD creator, choose make cd from image... change the file type to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso
and browse to where you downloaded the file... then burn away...
This should give you a bootable CD disk to install linux from. If this is giving you trouble, get a good set of instructions for install for your distribution or find a tech geek person to befriend.. caffeine and free food works fine, alcohol only after the install...
You can learn about MD5sums to makes sure your file is not corrupt..
Hope this helps,
Dareth
From the file menu of Easy CD creator, choose make cd from image... change the file type to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso
and browse to where you downloaded the file... then burn away...
This should give you a bootable CD disk to install linux from. If this is giving you trouble, get a good set of instructions for install for your distribution or find a tech geek person to befriend.. caffeine and free food works fine, alcohol only after the install...
You can learn about MD5sums to makes sure your file is not corrupt..
Hope this helps,
Dareth
Yes I have downloaded all 3 discs of Mandrake Linux and created the CD's. Disc one, when inserted comes up with do you want to install Mandrake now, I clicked on yes and it rebooted the machine , straight back into Windows.
I have 2 HDD and want to create a dual boot system.
What did I do wrong?
I have 2 HDD and want to create a dual boot system.
What did I do wrong?
Have you made sure that your computer is set up to boot from your cd drive? If not, you should be able to change the boot order in you computer's BIOS setup. You enter BIOS setup by pressing some key (usually DELETE or one of the F-keys) when you boot your computer. Make sure the boot order is set so that the system tries booting from your cdrom drive *before* your HD's.
Tower II uses an NVidia chipset in it's graphics cards. This means you need the propritary NVidia driver for this work. The maintainers have included this driver but don't enable it by default. Their FAQ has the exact procedure but I believe you do this at the boot prompt:
lilo:morphix xmodule=nvidia
That or a slight variation of it should get 3D up to speed on your other tower. There are both political and technical reasons they do this. Technical: NVidia's driver can be EXTREMELY unstable with certain motherboard chipsets. Milage definitely varies with them. I had a very bad experience with the Via MVP3 chipset for instance. Technical: The drivers are free only in the beer sense and I think that contributes to their limited compatibility. It most definitely makes them useless on non-x86 arches.
lilo:morphix xmodule=nvidia
That or a slight variation of it should get 3D up to speed on your other tower. There are both political and technical reasons they do this. Technical: NVidia's driver can be EXTREMELY unstable with certain motherboard chipsets. Milage definitely varies with them. I had a very bad experience with the Via MVP3 chipset for instance. Technical: The drivers are free only in the beer sense and I think that contributes to their limited compatibility. It most definitely makes them useless on non-x86 arches.
Ive been a fan of knoppix for a while, but last night I was really surprised when I tried the livecd of SuSE. It actually detected my tokenring card. Theres no other distro I know that does this. Beside that, it detected and fixed everything in my ECS duron system short of setting up the tokenring.
I still think knoppix is the best one out there. Mileage sure varies, even on my several desktops that I manage.
"Imagine having the workstations at your office loaded up with RAM, not needing a hard drive, and having everyone able to carry their systems around on a CD-ROM."
Imagine the huge security risks - users burn a virus-loading bootable CD-ROM at home that can infect the network, bring it in and boot it on their conveniently CD ROM-bootable work PC.
Normal users should only be allowed to boot their
PCs from the hard disk (or network if they don't have an accessible hard disk)...
thats rediculous - almost everything can load viruses... but a reputable distro on a cd isnt that likely to load a virus because of the amount of testing-
I've worked with linux for awhile but still dont consider myself an expert by any means, but i like Morphix. I like the idea of being able to give someone a cd and instead of telling them how to load the files, just 'em, "reboot your PC, what I wanted you to see on a folder on the desktop" Which is why I see Morphixas a great product
I've worked with linux for awhile but still dont consider myself an expert by any means, but i like Morphix. I like the idea of being able to give someone a cd and instead of telling them how to load the files, just 'em, "reboot your PC, what I wanted you to see on a folder on the desktop" Which is why I see Morphixas a great product
imagine the security risks of a user actually being able to sit in front of their own computer and type on the keyboard!
i think denying users the ability to boot from a floppy or cd is probably a small gain in the way of providing security.
i think denying users the ability to boot from a floppy or cd is probably a small gain in the way of providing security.
There is also the option to install it onto your hdd. However the ability to have your system on a CD so far has been a novelty, but it could develop into something more tangible.
I personally still find Knoppix is a much better distro, because it is more stable and and read/write access & mount is a quick right click for the options.
I personally still find Knoppix is a much better distro, because it is more stable and and read/write access & mount is a quick right click for the options.
Both Debian and IceWM are VERY user friendly.
I'm a user, I use both Debian and IceWM and they both treat me nicely.
However, Debian might not be IDIOT friendly. It takes some knowledge, but once you have that it is one of the most user friendly software around.
As for IceWM, do you mean it is not user friendly because it doesn't emulate Windows? Get real!
It has anything you want from a window manager, just remove the task bar (maybe use IceWM Light) and bind your keys properly, very user friendly.
I'm a user, I use both Debian and IceWM and they both treat me nicely.
However, Debian might not be IDIOT friendly. It takes some knowledge, but once you have that it is one of the most user friendly software around.
As for IceWM, do you mean it is not user friendly because it doesn't emulate Windows? Get real!
It has anything you want from a window manager, just remove the task bar (maybe use IceWM Light) and bind your keys properly, very user friendly.
Woa, I agree with you that Debian and Icewm are
great. But I don't see how anyone could not like
icewm because it is not like Windows.
Many people don't care for it this very reason.
Or that it is not a full fledged Desktop Environment like KDE or Gnome. That is fair enough. But for older hardware, icewm is the
sweetspot for speed and features.
Also it has the best keyboard support which
is "key" for me.
I loathe the idea of having to "mouse around".
great. But I don't see how anyone could not like
icewm because it is not like Windows.
Many people don't care for it this very reason.
Or that it is not a full fledged Desktop Environment like KDE or Gnome. That is fair enough. But for older hardware, icewm is the
sweetspot for speed and features.
Also it has the best keyboard support which
is "key" for me.
I loathe the idea of having to "mouse around".
Ice is nice but Blackbox/Fluxbox is better.
It is not user friendly because it does not integrate like Gnome and KDE. IceWM is a nice WM but for full desktop enviornments Gnome and KDE currently reign. Not because they work like windows but because things like mime types, hot key mapping, accessability and other things that the average geek could live without but the average computer user can't are integrated into the enviornment. That along with HIG's make for a more streamline interface. Of course this is at the expence of some speed and diskspace. In fact I can't go back to not using a DE. The little details make them great to use. The nice thing is advances in the two major DE's filter down to enviornments like IceWM and I heard Rox rocks.
"ed" is very user-friendly to me as a text editor, too.
z80 assembly language for the Timex Sinclair isn't IDIOT friendly either. it's all about a resonable expectation of function, and if that expectation comes from a user's past experience with windows, well than not only is it valid, it should be valued.
don't tell someone else what is friendly to them.
z80 assembly language for the Timex Sinclair isn't IDIOT friendly either. it's all about a resonable expectation of function, and if that expectation comes from a user's past experience with windows, well than not only is it valid, it should be valued.
don't tell someone else what is friendly to them.
Notice this comment further down the article:
I think the author, without knowing, was testing the LITE version with these type of users in mind. There is this big push to get Linux ready for anyone to use.
On the plus side of a "Windows" like UI you'll have more people adopt Linux more quickly if the learning curve is shortened. A UI or Desktop Environment that does this will help the adoption of Linux as a desktop alternative to Windows.
...a group of mostly quasi-computer-literate people...
I think the author, without knowing, was testing the LITE version with these type of users in mind. There is this big push to get Linux ready for anyone to use.
On the plus side of a "Windows" like UI you'll have more people adopt Linux more quickly if the learning curve is shortened. A UI or Desktop Environment that does this will help the adoption of Linux as a desktop alternative to Windows.
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