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Review: Mandriva Linux 2006

By Bruce Byfield on November 02, 2005 (8:00:00 AM)

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MandrakeLinux always had a reputation as an ideal distribution for beginners. Now that the renamed Mandriva has included technologies from Conectiva and Lycoris into Mandriva Linux 2006, this reputation seems more justified than ever. From its installation program to its selection of software and desktop design to its package design and security options, Mandriva is one of the easiest to use distributions available today.

At times, however, Mandriva's ease of use comes at the price of locking users into a limited relationship with the software. It threatens to lock users into their traditional roles of consumers, rather than enouraging them to understand and take control of their computing. This limitation is in stark contrast to many other features of Mandriva, which are designed to educate and inform.

Installation

Mandrake was one of the first distributions to introduce a graphical installation program. Over the years, the graphics and some of the details have changed, but the installer remains much the same: The steps in the installation are listed on the left, while a pane for selecting choices is on the right. The general maturity of the installer is shown in such small measures as the fact that, if a required CD is missing for any reason, you can skip installing the selected packages on it, as opposed to cancelling the entire installation.

The same maturity is visible during the initial setup and installation of the software. Consistently, Mandriva offers intelligent defaults, while making more detailed options available in another window. For example, users can click the Auto Allocate button or manually partition with a full range of options. On a 40GB hard drive, Auto Allocate created a 1GB swap partition, and a root partition of 5.8GB, and a /home partition of the remaining space, the latter two both formatted with the ext3 filesystem. These are sensible choices, but those who want something more cutting-edge -- or simply different -- can format a drive with partitions as desired, using any filesystem supported by the Linux kernel, with any mounting options. The same combination of reasonable defaults with more complex options hidden a mouse click away is available for package selection.

In fact, up until the configuration of the system, Mandriva's installer offers both a quick solution and customizations to satisfy the most demanding user. However, once you've created users, the installer abruptly changes its approach. In earlier versions of Mandrake, details such as display configuration were separate steps in the installation. In Mandriva 2006, most configuration options are crammed into a single step called Summary. While this change may make the installation process seem simpler at a glance, having a dozen different steps jammed into one may bog users down and tempt them into carelessness.

Even more importantly, at this crucial stage, users are often left to their own resources. True, Mandriva's hardware detection usually does a thorough job, and both the boot manager and service configurations offer the same level of help as in the earlier part of the install. Yet, in other areas, users are largely abandoned. Help is lacking for many stages, including network and Internet configuration. Sound is configured, but cannot be tested. Nor does the software detect available ports to help with firewall configuration, or -- at least on my test system -- detect a running printer connected via a local parallel port.

This lack of assistance is all the more surprising given the first-rate process in the first half of installation. Too often, it leaves users either having to trust that the hardware detection is reliable, or that configuration tools are available on the desktop -- and they are.

Software and desktop

Like its predecessors, Mandriva is a KDE-centric distribution. GNOME is available, but it is slightly less customized, with its default icons unchanged. By default, both KDE and GNOME feature a simplified but incomplete menu, including a black and white wallpaper that looks like a visionary penguin gazing heroically upwards. If you ignore warnings and log in to a desktop as root, the default wallpaper is bright red, to remind you of the potential damage that a root user can inflict.

Mandriva Linux 2006 KDE desktop
Mandriva Linux 2006 KDE desktop - click to enlarge

In most software categories, Mandriva's menus offer a limited but representative sample of what's available. For Web browsers, for instance, it offers Epiphany, Firefox, Konqueror, and Opera. Similarly, Mandriva offers three choices for system administration: the KDE Control Center, the Mandrake Control Center, and Webmin for advanced users and networking. While experienced users may miss their favorite software, Mandriva's policy generally balances introducing newcomers to the available variety without overwhelming them. Some software, including the GIMP, is installed, but not on the default menus.

As might be expected with a commercial distribution, the standard software is current to a month before the software's release in mid-October 2005. The free software includes a 2.6.12 kernel, Firefox 1.06, and GIMP 2.2, the non-free software Acrobat Reader 7.0, Flash 7.0, Opera 8.5, and Skype 1.2.0.17. The most unusual feature in the general selection of software is OpenOffice.org 1.1.5, as opposed to a release candidate of 2.0. Mandriva also opted for GCC 4.0 rather than Java, and apparently built OpenOffice.org with it.

New to Mandriva 2006 is Kat, a Mandriva-sponsored desktop search tool similar to Google's Desktop Search. Cataloging both file metadata and contents, Kat currently supports a wide variety of graphics formats and a more limited selection of text formats, including PDF, HTML, Microsoft Word, Excel, OpenOffice.org 1.0, and OpenDocument. It requires an OS with lnotify activated; lnotify is a kernel module originally designed to search logs for suspect entries and the running of the kat daemon. Once set up, it provides quick and detailed responses. However, considering that Mandriva attempts to organize users by adding subdirectories such as Documents, Download, and Pictures to each home directory, I am uncertain about what advantages Kat itself offers over well-organized directories and a file manager in everyday computing.

Mandriva Linux 2006 GNOME desktop
Mandriva Linux 2006 GNOME desktop - click to enlarge

The most noticeable feature of the Mandriva desktop are the more than 20 wizards. They vary from the multi-paged guide to setting up Evolution to Mandrake-specific ones such as the message box for setting OpenOffice.org to use either Microsoft Office or its native format.

On the whole, these wizards have the same strengths and weaknesses as similar helper applications on Windows. On one hand, they help new users to ramp up quickly. On the other hand, they rarely tell users how to change settings on their own. Granted, many users may not care to edit configuration files, but they could at least be told how to change the settings within the graphical program itself.

As far as I can tell, the software selection shows few if any legacies from Lycoris. Unique features of Lycoris, such as AI2 (Advanced Application Integration Infrastructure), a third-party installer, or the remote access assistance, a tool to enable remote login for technical support, have yet to find their way into Mandriva. Nor does Mandriva offer any of Lycoris' proprietary font packs. Conectiva's contributions to the default desktop seem equally sparse, except for a possible merging of its control center with Mandrake's.

Package management

Mandriva's dedication to software choice continues with package management. In addition to RPMDrake, Mandrake's graphical package manager, Mandriva includes Conectiva's equivalent, a tool called Smart. Smart and RPMdrake closely resemble each other and Synaptic, one of the more popular graphical tools for Debian package management. Just as Synaptic is a front end for apt-get, RPMdrake is a front end for urpmi. Smart is available in both command-line and desktop versions. All three automatically determine dependencies (or "relations," as Smart calls them), show status in a series of progress bars, and have limited problem resolution options. Smart is not installed by default, perhaps because it is only at version 0.40, but it's as functional as RPMDrake albeit rougher around the edges.

Security

Mandriva attempts to educate users about security. For instance, opening XChat while logged in as root opens a message window that bluntly states, "Running XChat as root is stupid." The trouble is that these messages do not explain why an action is stupid. In general, security in Mandriva tends to be more reactive than architectural.

Early in the installation, Mandriva offers a choice of four security levels: standard, high, higher, and paranoid. This choice is acceptable for new users, but anyone with an awareness of security issues will find it lacking. For one thing, even in PowerPack Plus, the edition intended for servers, the default choice is standard, which the install program describes as suitable for desktop users.

More importantly, each level is described only in terms of its suitability for different programs. Exactly what configuration choices are made on each level is unspecified. As a result, although you can specify security options during the installation for partitions and the boot manager, and any of Mandriva's three sets of tools are suitable for tweaking the system after installation, security administration is flawed at the start. Administrators have no idea what the original state of the system might be. As a result, securing it requires careful investigation. Even then, administrators cannot be sure that they have done all they should.

This state of affairs is unlikely to bother home users, but for network administrators it makes doing a responsible job next to impossible. Of course, you could choose the paranoid option -- although its name may steer users away from it. That way, settings could be loosened instead of tightened, which is always a sounder practice in security. Yet the inefficiency of administration would still be no less with the paranoid setting than with the standard. By making the level of security easier to choose, Mandriva takes control of the system away from users who need it.

On the plus side, Mandriva includes an interactive firewall and a graphical interface for ClamAV, a tool unnecessary for GNU/Linux but useful when setting up a Samba server to interact with Windows. Yet these reactive measures may not be enough for a conscientious administrator. In effect, Mandriva asks administrators to trust it rather than their own efforts -- something that most will be reluctant to do.

Conclusion

Mandriva Linux 2006 is available in three editions: Discovery/LX for beginners; PowerPack for advanced desktop users; and PowerPack Plus, for desktops and servers. Each is available in 32- and 64-bit versions.

The difficulties I've described are probably especially obvious in PowerPack Plus, which I used for this review. Still, even with the other editions, what you think of Mandriva Linux 2006 will likely depend on your view of GNU/Linux in general.

If your main interest is a mostly free operating system that Windows refugees can easily learn, then Mandriva is almost without rivals. With the possible exception of Linspire, no other distribution is as focused on the desktop and the creation of GUI tools. Its accomplishments are all the more impressive considering how often interface design has been neglected in free and open source software.

If you believe that GNU/Linux implicitly includes a hands-on philosophy that encourages users to understand their software and take control of it, then your admiration may decrease a few levels. Mandriva's tools for both average users and administrators are not only separated by a large gulf, but are (except in the first half of the installation program) largely unbridged by any attempt to educate users. Mandriva has few wizards for administrative tasks, and still fewer on-line help files for them. As a result, while new users can get up and running quickly with Mandriva, they are unlikely to progress any further.

For many, this may be enough. Yet, because Mandriva does not offer a clear path for users to travel beyond their initial experience, some users may find it ultimately unsatisfactory. At first, they may delighted to find such a polished operating system. Later, though, they may start to hunger for alternatives.

Bruce Byfield is a course designer and instructor, and a computer journalist who writes regularly for NewsForge and the Linux Journal Web site.

Bruce Byfield is a computer journalist who writes regularly for Linux.com.

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Mandriva Linux 2006

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 08:59 AM
I started using Mandrake at version 7.0 and liked it, but by version 10.x it ws getting buggy. It seemed every upgrade broke something I had set up before such as Crossover or Real Player. I got so fed up I switched to a Kanotix Live CD.

Why is it that all the Knoppix variants work so well?

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Re:Mandriva Linux 2006

Posted by: WarPengi on November 06, 2005 11:53 AM
That would be because (like Knopppix itself) they are Debian based.

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Pointless Criticisms

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 02:10 AM
Here's an example:

"However, considering that Mandriva attempts to organize users by adding subdirectories such as Documents, Download, and Pictures to each home directory, I am uncertain about what advantages Kat itself offers over well-organized directories and a file manager in everyday computing."

Get serious. I have scores of thousands of files in hundreds of directories under my "Documents" directory (on my Windows XP side of the machine) - does this guy really think that having a well-organized directory structure is enough? What if one directory contains a thousand files? Do you really want to subdivide every single directory down to the point where you only have a twenty or less files in it?

If you're an average user with less than a hundred files sitting on your desktop, yes, you don't need Kat. Everybody else needs a search tool, even if it's nothing more than that stupid Windows dog.

He complains tirelessly about how Mandriva provides only a certain level of support for users who may want to become Unix system administrators. This is not what Mandriva is for. That's HIS concept of what Linux is about, not the average user's concept. The average user just wants it to work - and, yes, when it doesn't - JUST LIKE WINDOWS - he'll be up the creek.

Yes, Mandriva, like every other piece of software in existence, has significant limitations and fails to go the extra mile in some respects. Duh!

A reviewer should tell us what it does, and what it doesn't do. His interpretation of this is really irrelevant. I don't watch TV movie critics for their criticism of the movie - I watch to find out what the movie is ABOUT. I will decide whether I want to watch the movie or not.

Next time, don't lecture - review.

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my experiance exactly

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 02:17 AM
I started my Linux Career with Madrake 8.1
and it was amazing...stayed with them until 10.0
at that point I wanted more control, more packeges and a better understanding of the OS I was working with.
I did some research decided I wanted a Debain based system, did some more and test drove Ubuntu & Memphis.

Currently I run Ubuntu. and learning a lot more about the OS and Linux file structures then I ever did with Mandrake...but that is there market. and they do there market very very well

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Re:my experiance exactly

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 05:42 AM
experience, not experiance
packages, not packeges
Mepis, not Memphis
their market, not there market

Now that we have that out of the way, I suspect your migration to Debian based distros had more to do with the perceived l33t factor than any basis in fact. Nothing but ignorance stopped you from learning more "about the OS and Linux file structures" when you were running Mandrake. You can poke around "under the hood" with Mandrake/Mandriva just as you can with any other distro.

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Re:my experiance exactly

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 10:58 AM
David

Thanks for the excellent descriptions about your experience with mandrake/Mandriva - very well done!

Regards
Shelton.

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Mandriva fine for advanced users/admins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 04:21 AM
Speaking as someone who has implemented production systems with SuSE 7-8x, RedHat 7-9x, Debian & Mandrake 8.x-2005LE, I think this writer is all wet.

On one job we brought in a 'guru' who spent 5 DAYS getting a debian host set up with Oracle 9.2. Subsequently myself(programmer) and the lead programmer moved the database to Mandrake 9.2 in 1 DAY! This after initially trying to move it to RedHat 9... we wasted a day on that effort - what a mess!

When we installed it on Mandrake 9.2 we had to download 1 package specifically for Oracle, OpenMotif. We're not even sure we had to do that, we just did it because we weren't sure that it was part of the default install(I guess the author would call that a 'drawback' of Mandriva!).

At any rate the database ran like a swiss watch on Mandrake 9.2 for 2 years, before finally moving it to RedHat just so that Oracle would non-OS related support questions!

My experience with many distros/versions/kernels is that if you need pain to feel like you're working with a 'real' linux distro, you may be quite disappointed with Mandriva... Mandriva in many instances is the OS that Windoze always wanted to be... install it and it just works.

Secondly, I have customized many Mandrake installations, including custom compilations of numerous versions of Apache, PHP and MANY other systems; I have with great granularity customized security and many other aspects of the Mandrake OS for servers & desktops. The only thing that my experience tells me is missing with the Mandrake/Mandriva linux experience is pain and frustation.

Mandriva shatters the old myth - at least when it comes to linux distros - of 'No Pain, No Gain'. With Mandriva it is best restated as 'Great Gain, Little Pain.

David Keith
Progammer/Admin/Engineer etc. ad nauseum

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Re:Mandriva fine for advanced users/admins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 11:00 AM
David

Thanks for the excellent descriptions about your experience with mandrake/Mandriva - very well done!

Regards
Shelton.

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author is ignorant about what he's writing

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 08:27 AM
I have used many distros, incl. mandriva and suse. Anything you can do in SUSE, debian or fedora can be fone in mandriva.

there's nothing propreitary in their configuration(s) and the MCC etc only edit the standard config files in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/**.

It seems the author wants to beat down mandriva but doesn't know how. So he comes up with useless arguments. Not that mandriva is perfect but not good for learning ? WTF ?

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Re:author is ignorant about what he's writing

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 11:52 AM
I agree with the parent completely. Had the author of the article snooped around the filesystem a little bit, he would have found a completely configurable Linux filesystem. type "urpmi make automake cvs svn" as ROOT and you have a completely usable build system for source too (since urpmi will grab all dependencies etc and install them with these).

Under the hood, Mandriva is still very close to and compatible with Fedora Core/Redhat, right down to the ability to configure etc/ settings files and tweaking fstab.

To clarify the misunderstanding that the author may have about the wizards in Mandrake. When you manually configure a setting, the wizard won't overwrite the setting until you run the wizard again. If I want to run the Nvidia driver Module instead of the NV xorg module for my Nvidia videocard to enable 3d support.. I just edit my xorg.conf same as you would in Fedora Core.

It's an easy to use OS, but it's still a fully featured RPM based system. I won't contest that the slackers and the gentoos and the debians are more "linux" than an RPM system. But Mandriva does hold it's own with Suse, Fedora, Red Hat etc. It's as good as any RPM based distro out there.

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wow

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 02:10 PM
come on!
xchat shows "Running irc as root is stupid" on all distributions, it's Xchat, not mandriva

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Baseless criticism

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 03:18 PM
Basing part of your criticism on the fact that there wasn't any noticable additions from their acquisition of Lycoris is just wrong. According to their press releases, the Lycoris acquisition happened in July, and Mandriva Linux 2006 went beta August 8. If you read the release announcement, This is the first release to offer a smooth transition from Conectiva Linux 10 (which they acquired in March). It does say that some of the Lycoris technology made it in to the Discovery/LX edition (not having seen Lycoris before, I couldn't tell which packages), but knowing from past merger experiences (Novell/Suse, Novell/Ximian, HP/Compaq, etc), these mergers take a lot of work to get both product lines integrated into one. Now, if the next major release doesn't have any of these Lycoris features, then you can complain. Give it some time.

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I have serious doubts on this assertion....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 03, 2005 08:42 PM
"Some software, including the GIMP, is installed, but not on the default menus."

According to the screenshots, the reporter looked for Gimp in the Office->Presentation menu, and perhaps in the Office->Drawing menu.

Gimp has always been in the multimedia menu. It is definitely not a presentation software, and not really a drawing software, but an image editor. One can argue about the absence of gimp entry in the drawing or in the graph submenus, but I really doubt that there is no Gimp somewhere in the menu.

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Re:I have serious doubts on this assertion....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 06:50 AM
->media->graphics->the gimp
has been there since 9.2

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Re:I have serious doubts on this assertion....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 07, 2005 04:29 PM
I am the one who wrote the parent post, stating my doubts about the absence of Gimp in the menus.

I have found this screenshot on OSdir which confirms that the writer of the article has not really searched the gimp in the menus:
<a href="http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=472&slide=65" title="osdir.com">http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?r<nobr>e<wbr></nobr> lease=472&slide=65</a osdir.com>

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Good for newbies and sysadmins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 04:27 AM
Mandriva's real strength is its active user community and its IRC support channel at #mandriva on irc.freenode.org (where I am cilkay). What has kept me coming back to Mandriva after I have used other distros, Red Hat, Fedora Core, Debian, Ubuntu (the current "sexy" distro), and scores of others is that community. I use Mandriva on desktops and in large scale web and application hosting, including hosting Xen VPSs (Virtual Private Servers). It gets the job done admirably well. Contrary to what the reviewer suggested, this is a distro that is just as useful to a very skilled Linux system administrator as a complete newbie.

I can run any distro. I choose to run Mandriva because it is well engineered, its package manager is second to none, and the community is very tolerant, friendly, and knoledgeable. By contrast, they eat their young on #debian, which is a shame because Debian is also a fine distro. Heaven forbid one should ask a "stupid" question there. This is the ugly side of Linux that many newbies unfortunately encounter. If you are a newbie reading this, before you choose a distro, hang around for a while on the IRC channels of the distros that you are considering. Pay attention to how newbies' questions are answered. Are newbies made to feel as if they are welcome or are they used as punching bags by the wannabe gurus who feel a need to demonstrate how brilliant they are by making newbies feel stupid? (Note: this does not let newbies off the hook for doing basic research and learning how to ask questions so that they get answered.) Is there a good mix of newbies and experienced users? How often does the channel degenerate into a flamefest? Are the channel ops diligent about keeping the channel under control? For example, on #mandriva, using foul language is not permitted because the channel ops, wisely, decided that they wanted to keep it friendly and appropriate for people of all ages.

Mandriva, in my opinion, is one of the most polished distros on the market. That, and the community around it, makes it very newbie friendly. There are no barriers for experienced users either so there is really no reason to think of Mandriva as a "training wheel" distro where as you get more experienced, you will switch to a "grown up" distro. The beauty of Linux is that you do not have to take the reviewer's or anyone else's word for any of this. The cost of trying various distros until you settle upon one that you are comfortable with is quite low. Go ahead, try a few. Mandriva can be downloaded from various mirrors around the world for free so if you want to try it without purchasing one of the boxed sets, feel free, though the boxed sets come with manual and official support. If you end up using something else and are happy with it, more power to you.

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Re:Good for newbies and sysadmins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 04, 2005 09:21 PM
The boxed sets also have proprietary software like Opera and Flash - the download edition has only Free-as-in-Freedom stuff.

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Re:Good for newbies and sysadmins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 07, 2005 03:23 AM
True, though you can download and install that stuff yourself in the download edition. The difference in the boxed set is that all those things are nicely packaged and integrated whereas they are not for the free download. This is no different for any other distro. Proprietary binaries like Java and Flash cannot be distributed freely. For newbies, a boxed distro with manuals is the way to go for any distro, not just Mandriva.

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Re:Good for newbies and sysadmins

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 13, 2005 11:29 AM
I bet this guy doesnt know what he´s talking about. i´ve used the Drake for quite a long time and every release keep me satisfied, i´m sure mandriva is gonna be alright.
I think the reviewer is one of this who thinks is a guru but he dont even know where the gimp is.
It seems this man works for bill gate$, you should encourage people to make the change.

Give Mandriva a try (Not a couple of hours)

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Re:Good for newbies and sysadmins

Posted by: Administrator on November 07, 2005 08:21 AM
I've used Mandrake/Mandriva ever since version 7.2. I've been through some pain with some of the releases (and extremely irritated with Mandrake/Mandriva at various times). Some releases incorporated so much new cutting edge software, that they were just simply not tested sufficiently before release. Others versions were as smooth as silk. I've used Mandriva as a Desktop OS, and as a Server (at the high school where I teach).

Suffice to say that the Mandriva user community has always been a major factor in my staying with Mandriva, and the poster of "Good for newbies and sysadmins" is right about the Mandriva User Community.

It is a versatile Distro, with a large number of custom Kernels that suit a vast number of architectures.

It is easy to plumb the depths of Linux with Mandriva--if you dig into the manuals that come with a boxed set, you will find a great deal of information about running and using Linux.

Insofar as fine-grained security goes, Bruce should go into MCC (the Mandrake Control Center), and set the "Expert Mode" through the "Options Menu". Then he should select "Security". He'll find some very fine-grained setting options in expert mode.

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Mandriva ? My Home desktop and server since 9.0...

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on November 19, 2005 09:05 PM
As a daily user of Mandriva since 9.0, I've quite a different opinion on it than the reviewer.

My satisfaction of its daily use reaches about 95% I believe, a figure I've not been able to reach with any other OS.

Installation is easy, but moreover once it's installed it really works well, fast, and for a long time. Just imagine using a PC without having to always fear viruses, crashes, lost data, system slowdowns, spyware, and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a fee for every additional simple feature you need. Frankly, who nowadays would take the risk to have bank user/password information on a computer running a virus and spyware-invaded OS ? Not me.

So once configured, you can't really beat Mandriva I've found.

But there are still areas where I would like to see Mandiva progress.

Especially because although I've used Mandriva on an old computer for a long time, I've finally bought a brand new 64 bits computer with the intent to install Mandriva on it. Thanks to the maker respect for free trade laws (Maxdata) I didn't pay for other OS as it was optional (a €70 saving I happily used to add useful features like Bluetooth and more RAM and hard disk), so I installed Mandiva as I planned.

Where I had problems is that many hardware features on this new laptop were brand new cutting edge cool stuff and were not easy to configure: wireless lan, acpi-compatible pcmcia, memory card reader were not easily supported.

I could finally get the wireless lan working but pcmcia and memory card are still not working for me. Hopefully these problems have been solved now so when I really need these features I can enjoy them.

But that's really where I would like to see Mandriva (and other Linuxes) progress: support for recent hardware features.

I believe Linux in general was often used on servers or older PCs before as it was faster and could run on slower older hardware, therefore support for brand new laptop h/w components was not critical.

Now that information security and performance (I think still only Linux has released 64 bits OS for desktops and portables) motivate more users to use Linux, it becomes more important for distributions to insure that their OS will run fully on new PCs like laptops for instance.

This was still lacking in the Mandriva 2006 unofficial RC version I tried.

So all the blah-blah of the reviewer about providing more help and education to users is really not where I would like to see Mandriva invest their money: there's Internet for that, which provides much up-to-date information than any help documentation on a CD.

Just make sure trendy new hardware features (like built-in multi-standard memory card reader) work with the distribution and it'll be hard to beat you Mandriva !

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Re:Mandriva ? My Home desktop and server since 9.0

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on December 14, 2005 06:31 PM
Ive recently installed Mandriva 2006 on a dell inspiron 1200 along side xandros 3.0, and its just great, works well, does what I want and is more stable than the MS alternative.
Im also running win xp / Linspire 5 on a p3 - 700 and win 98 / mepis on a p2 - 233.
Im only using win xp as I need dreamweaver, and havnt yet found a linux alternative for dreamweaver. If macromedia were to release a linx version, then windows would be through the namesake and into the dustbin.

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Re:Personal preferences

Posted by: Administrator on November 03, 2005 12:30 PM
Mandriva has, since 1998, really paved the way for usable desktop Linux systems. Some would argue that Caldera had software earlier that provided desktop features, and others might argue that their favorite distribution did it, but from my perspective, it was Mandriva that first raised the bar of ease of use and usability for desktop Linux systems. Lycoris and Linspire have since taken different approaches and have really propelled usability in different directions. I still think that Mandriva is near the forefront in terms of a full featured, easy to use system, and I think it scales well from starting as the beginner's first desktop Linux system, maturing to a more complete system that the well versed administrator can tinker with. However, I do not see Mandriva as the most flexible system out there; I'd give that reward to one of the desktop Debian system vendors - Libranet is my favorite in that category; SimplyMEPIS is arguably the easiest software in the world to install. Mandriva stacks up well against these, rating well in ease of use and just a few steps behind in flexibility - but small steps.

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Personal preferences

Posted by: Administrator on November 03, 2005 10:59 AM
While I admit Mandrake/Mandriva/whatever they want to call it is a good desktop OS, I wouldn't consider it 'without rival'. Honestly the last time I checked out Mandriva, which was version 10, I found it not quite as polished and easy to use as say Suse 9. However after using Fedora, Mandriva, Suse, Linspire, and a couple others, my personal choice is Ubuntu which so far has detected and made available just about every device I've plugged into it.

Everyone has their own favorite. Personally, I'd give Ubuntu a shot.

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