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My desktop OS: Xandros

By Jeff Park on January 05, 2006 (8:00:00 AM)

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About a year ago I installed Linux on my desktop at work. I am a database administrator for a PeopleSoft and Oracle shop and I spend a lot of my time remotely logged in to our servers. I decided to try Linux because I had become frustrated with Windows not being able to things like multiple desktops, forwarding the display of a remote server onto your box to run apps remotely, and connecting with SSH. Fortunately, my management is far more interested in having happy, productive employees than what operating system people use so they were willing to let me experiment. Today, with Xandros, I have a good solid desktop, and I don't worry about viruses, spyware, and adware.

I wanted an easy-to-use Linux distribution, something that "just works." I didn't want to spend my time tinkering or figuring out how to make my system work.

At work we have been migrating our Web servers and some of our other database servers to Red Hat, so that seemed a good first choice. However, Red Hat is expensive and, in my opinion (from a usability point of view), better suited as a server. I could have gone for the free and more updated Fedora Core but I didn't want something that was labeled "experimental."

My next thought was Ubuntu. You have to search pretty hard to find negative comments about Ubuntu. I loaded up Warty Warthog on a spare computer and played with it for a while. I liked the clean interface but was bothered by the things missing. I had to hand-edit my X.org config file to set the refresh rate (which wasn't properly detected), I could not get printing to work over our Active Directory network, and I had a difficult time setting up connections to our file server (also Active Directory). After a few days without the ability to print I decided to move on.

My next try was Xandros. Although not free, Xandros has a free (for non-commercial use) version which I downloaded. I was extremely impressed with the simple install routine and the ease of setting everything up. I set up mappings to our Active Directory file server in minutes with no problems, but the real selling point was that I set up printing in less than 10 minutes. I was hooked.

I didn't want to jump into anything without some thorough testing, so I took a couple of months before hitting up my boss for funds to purchase it. One by one, I moved my applications over. It wasn't hard since I was already using Opera for Web browsing and Thunderbird for email. My word processing and spreadsheet needs were pretty basic, so OpenOffice.org replaced Microsoft Office quite easily. I use a few Windows-only applications, but since I don't use them often, I just left them on a spare Windows box.

I decided to do my "conversion" cold turkey. I immediately went to Linux full-time and only used my Windows box when I absolutely had to. Xandros handled everything I threw at it. I love how you can install local standalone Debian and RPM packages as well as repository-based packages from Xandros Networks. I even came to love the Xandros File Manager (which I didn't like at first) for its power and versatility. It still amuses me that Windows takes three or four mouse clicks to unmount a flash drive and Xandros does it in one. The best part of all is that it just worked. I wasn't spending time fiddling with config files or fighting with OS issues. I just did my job and was happy.

After two or three months of using Xandros, I went to my boss and told him that I had been using Linux for the past few months and explained why I felt it was a better OS for me. I asked for funds to purchase Xandros Deluxe version 3 (which had been released while I was still doing my evaluation). The funds were approved, and within a few days, I had a shiny new copy of Xandros Linux.

The migration from the Xandros 2 installation that I had to version 3 was painless. I just backed up all my files and moved them over to the new computer (I upgraded my computer at the same time). Apart from installing some programs, that was about it. The look and feel was the same. The big changes were in the underlying architecture (moving from the 2.4 to the 2.6 kernel, upgrading KDE, etc.). The most noticeable change was the inclusion of Crossover Office (which I use only to test Web pages in Internet Explorer). After just a couple of days I was done tinkering and back to work.

Of course I had some minor issues. Setting the default Web browser to Opera involved some Internet searching and command line configuration. Printing gave me grief every now and then (which turned out to be an Opera issue) but I got that solved. In order to install the Oracle client, I had to trick the installer into thinking that Xandros was actually Red Hat. The only recurring problem came from Samba. I set up my network shares by mounting them off of my home directory, but every now and then (maybe once a month) I would lose my connections and the file manager would freeze for about five minutes trying to access the shares. To fix this I had to wait for the file manager to time out, manually unmount the shares, and remount them. Apart from that, Xandros was solid as a rock and so easy to use that I rarely thought about what OS I was using at all.

I've been using Xandros for over a year now and no longer consider it a grand experiment; it's just my desktop. Some say that Linux is not ready for the desktop and, for them, it may not be. However, for me, it's not only ready but it's the perfect OS for my job.

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Why not use AutoFS to resolve the SAMBA issues?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 05, 2006 07:01 PM
Hi there,

I don't know whether this is relevent to you or not, but I believe the SAMBA issue you've described should be able to be resolved using AutoFS. It'll take some configuring to start with, but once it's in place, it'll mount your SAMBA connections when you need them, not leave them persistently connected - and, if necessary, you can increase the "timeout" from a couple of seconds (which is the default) to a couple of hours if needs be - which means that effectively, every night, you reconnect to the server.

It's just a suggestion, but maybe it'll be useful to you?

Jon "The Nice Guy"

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Re:Why not use AutoFS to resolve the SAMBA issues?

Posted by: kiz01 on January 05, 2006 10:52 PM
If it works, it would be very useful. I'll have to look into it.

Thanks.

jeff

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Cracking

Posted by: SarsSmarz on January 05, 2006 09:42 PM
Xandros is probably the best way to crack the corporate ms-wall. Otherwise, I wouldn't know how to do it, what with all the ms-drones in IT standing together.

I could see some speciality department first demanding Linux because of security, performance, or available software. Then, it could go to admin staff. At my place, we are still stuck with win-98 because of many little custom programs (like timesheets).

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Re:Cracking

Posted by: kiz01 on January 06, 2006 02:06 AM
You know that Xandros 3 Deluxe ships with Crossover Office right? It seems like that would be a great solution to your Win98 problem. You could use Crossover Office to run your Win98 apps (assuming they work) and use Linux apps for everything else. Then you could migrate from an old, insecure, non-supported OS to a new, supported, stable, and secure OS.

Just a thought.

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Check out the other Debian offspring

Posted by: Keith Winston on January 05, 2006 09:47 PM
Xandros is a fine OS, I have the 3.0 OCE on one of my partitions at home. As you said, the install is 4 clicks and the whole thing is highly polished.

Using Xandros drew me to into the Debian world -- Debian proper and its offspring like Knoppix, Mepis, and Damn Small Linux. I really dig these LiveCD distros (pioneered by Knoppix) that you can install to a hard disk or USB pendrive.

I am working on creating my own remastered version of Knoppix for travel and rescue needs. Sweet!

Debian deserves a lot of credit and support.

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Xandros to Sponsor SCALE 4x

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 06, 2006 01:13 AM
Xandros will be sponsoring <a href="http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/" title="socallinuxexpo.org">SCALE 4x.</a socallinuxexpo.org>

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Very undervalued/underrated Distro

Posted by: Joe Klemmer on January 06, 2006 12:51 PM
I have been a fan of this distro since it was Corel Linux 1.0 (and I still have the boxed set of that somewhere in all this junk). I bought every version I could of this distro because I believe it is the best out there to go against WinXX. I don't actually use it and still have unopened boxes of older versions of Xandros. The only reason I don't run it is because I R hacker and need all the stuff that's purposefully (and rightfully) left out of Xandros. Also, it's Debian based and that is, FOR MYSELF ONLY , a detriment. I really wish there was some way to get this baby out in the world with decent press and usage. Put RHEL on the servers and Xandros on the desktops and companies will save ungodly amounts of time and money over any Microsoft solutions they have now.

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Its my choice too, for a long time.

Posted by: cprise on January 06, 2006 01:22 PM
Going back to early 2000 when it was still Corel Linux, I've been using Xandros as an extremely stable, well-thought-out platform.

When RedHat upgrades were breaking my 3rd party apps (like VMWare and Rational Rose), Xandros continued to run them well long after RedHat/FC made it impossible or expensive (with app upgrades) to keep going.

Xandros' handling of printing and Windows shares has been awesome since the beginning: This distro had common-sense printer and sharing setup when other "easy-to-use" distros were still figuring out how to create makeshift configuration scripts that a non-admin could understand. Corel/Xandros was the first distro I ever witnessed autodetecting USB devices! Their experience with desktop issues goes back a long way.

Enter 2006: I still cannot count on being able to use the other "easy-to-use" distros on a Windows network. No automatic encryption for home-folders (essential for any laptop). Printing in general is still hit or miss. Display configuration tools always miss the mark.

In Xandros, if it misdetects the monitor res/scanrate, I can set the monitor type myself AND expect the refreash rate and res options to change accordingly. It definately comes closest to the feeling of control and expediency one expereiences with Mac and Windows systems.

It has the first Wifi options built into a control panel that I've ever seen (save for OS X or Windows), complete with a way to choose NDIS drivers.

Point/Click setup or removal of home folder encrpytion; excellent application-centric frontend for APT (which includes support for 'Universe' and individual downloads); elegant (if Windows-like) file browser with tool icons for burning CDs and DVDs; built-in support for Realplayer, Adobe PDF, Flash, Java nicely integrated with the rest of the desktop; an excellent (and well-tested) mix of proprietary and open hardware drivers: These are all features which have left me impressed with Xandros.

I am not surprised that Xandros has frequently earned the highest marks from PC-oriented magazines; These reviewers are among the closest to users' concerns in the IT press. Its unfortunate that over the years the Linux sites have seemed to ignore high praise from the "Windows camp" for a distro like Xandros.


I can imagine a GNU distro that is better than Xandros and the others: One where drivers can be downloaded from vendors and installed using a simple GUI, one where driver writers have a consistent environment to write for (and the same for writing and installing apps).

This does not cater to the Unix sysadmin vision of a desktop-as-micromanaged-sandbox with helpless users; That is just a 2005 version of videoterminals that everyone with even a slightly creative role (i.e. all managers) will eventually need to do an end-run around using flexible and approachable products. Eventually, the centralized software repository/database will have to go away (or be beaten back to where most people agree the OS ends and applications begin), otherwise users continuing to battle dependency problems and who are sick of not being able to download the latest upgrades from a real software author/vendor, will continue to turn back toward Mac and Windows.

Users do not fall into two groups: The Helpless and the Unix Guru, even if this idea gratifies the collective ego on this site. In fact, it is the range of people in-between that made the PC Revolution possible! People who were comfortable learning business logic, and who needed some creative control in the local workplace, but didn't want unnecessary hassles. I have experienced it: People have built Sneakernets (remember them?) to tunnel around sclerotic Unix/Mainframe priests, and they'll do it again if they have to. They're doing it right now as they are saying 'Yes' increasingly to a revamped Mac OS while keeping GNU/Linux at arms-length.

Look at the marketshare trend: We can't even GIVE this stuff away. Anticipate the needs of ISVs and their customers, or expect nothing to change.

Here's hoping...

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XandrOS &amp; pulse dialing

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 06, 2006 11:02 PM
Greeting from the sunny Ukraine at this Christmas Eve!
Well, I must confess Xandros is a well-polished distro, like SuSE, Vector, MDK... Pretty, pretty pleasant look, very good win-compatibility, emulators, etc...But who can explain me in this world: how I can make its kppp (or what it's called at XandrOS) to do the PULSE dialing at the old good dial-up networking???
I've tried all the ways, from GUI (it doesn't allow to put in the "P" character at the phone number bar) up to the config' files.
It just doesn't want to work; TONE dialing is OK.
If you have some comments to that, please, contact me: messiahette (doggy) ukr.net
(no spaces, sure)

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Not so Quick Sparky !

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 07, 2006 12:25 AM
I don't worry about viruses, spyware, and adware Oh really? Um let's see if you run say a VM client to load the Windows os then that is still acceptable to the same crap. Also if you run IE through Codeweavers, it too will still get spyware and ad-ware and guess what you can not remove it!

Try loading Ad-Aware or Spybot using Codeweavers and running it to clean out IE guess what it crashes and you again can not remove the nasties.

So do some checking before you jump to the gun on the statement I don't worry about viruses, spyware, and adware.....

WM..

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Not so Quick yourself, Sparky !

Posted by: kiz01 on January 07, 2006 02:15 AM
I don't run a VM client to load Windows OS. Also, although I do run IE through Codeweavers, I only use it occasionaly to test changes to a web app that I wrote and to troubleshoot browser issues with our PeopleSoft installation. In other words, I don't use IE to "surf the web", I've got Opera for that and it does a much better job. I use IE to test compatibility of web applications in a closed environment. So, when I say I don't worry about viruses, spyware, and adware, I mean it.

There are always things you can do to put your computer at risk. I simply choose not to do them.

jeff

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