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MP3tunes' Locker sounds good

By David Strom on February 09, 2006 (8:00:00 AM)

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So you've ripped all your CDs on your hard disk, and you now have gigabytes of MP3 songs that you have no idea how to back up in case of disaster. Wouldn't it be nice to have something offsite, easy to use, and not that expensive? Enter MP3tunes' Locker service, a clever way to backup and synchronize your music files.

Here's the deal. You load a couple of agent programs on your PC (there are versions for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux available). They find your music files and begin to stuff them in your locker. You can synchronize in either direction (send everything up, send everything down, or both), and specify particular folders or directories that you want it to search for the music. The service also offers a Web client, so you can listen to your tunes directly from your locker when you aren't in front of your music library.

The free version doesn't let you synch your files, but the paid version comes with unlimited storage for a year for $40, which seems reasonable to me. I tested on Mac and Windows, sending files both ways.

There are several things that I don't like about the product. First, the software agent, called Oboe, is available in two pieces: one for iTunes to synchronize playlists, and one for all other music players to synchronize the actual song files themselves. You need to run both if you want the full iTunes functionality, but I found lots of instability issues when I did: several times Oboe would go out into the ether and get lost trying to synchronize my files. If you don't care about your playlists or don't have many, then just use the regular flavor and don't worry about it.

I have a music library approaching 20GB, and it took several 24-hour days to get all the files stored in the locker. My first hurdle was that my PC went to sleep during the lengthy synch process; once I forced it to stay awake and on task, things went better. If I didn't load the special iTunes Oboe agent, I usually got better throughput.

The synch service works as advertised. After my massive upload, I ripped a few more CDs to see what would happen. They were quickly found and dispatched to cyberspace. The only issue was that the time estimates were initially way off -- in one case, I had more than 150 files that Oboe was telling me were going to take 18 hours. Ninety minutes and 30 files later, the completion time was down to six hours. My performance was about 20 files per hour when all was said and done -- but then I am connected via a cable modem operated by a bankrupt provider.

Once the files are uploaded, Locker will tell you under its "tune up" section whether your ID3 tags are incomplete and need additional editing. Its user interface is very close to that of iTunes, so using it is a breeze.

There are other products out there that can do something similar to Locker, including foldershare.com, which is now owned by Microsoft and can copy any set of files up to a spot on the Internet. Locker and Oboe come from the same people who are behind Linspire, the version of Linux formerly known as Lindows. If you need the peace of mind to store your music somewhere off site, then listen to Oboe and see how it plays with your collection.

David Strom is a freelance writer.

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forget it!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 02:21 AM
To pay for something designed and geared to work primarily with a proprietary format like mp3?!

iTunes? you gotta be kiddin'!

I rather keep my oggs on my own computers...

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Re:forget it!

Posted by: aconkling on February 10, 2006 04:22 AM
I rather share your sentiments. This was recently covered on Slashdot and while it looks like an audiophile's dream in theory, I was rather disappointed to see that there is no FLAC support (which more and more audiophiles are using) and that while there is no limit for the number of files you upload, there is a 20MB limit per file. I have plenty of music files that are that large (long classical or jazz pieces, mostly).

I really only care about backing up my high-quality FLAC audio. If these two things were in place, I think I'd be interested.

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Re:forget it!

Posted by: raindog on February 10, 2006 06:11 AM
20 megs per file?! The very first track I would have uploaded would have been Close to the Edge by Yes, track one from the album of the same name, which at LAME's default quality level (used to be called "r3mix") is almost 27MB.

That's nowhere near the longest track in my collection, just the first track off of the first CD I ripped. I can't imagine how big my files would be if I actually gave a crap about sound quality.

I wish Mike Robertson the best of luck, but geez, come on, dude.

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Complicated Solution to Simple Problem

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 03:55 AM

So you've ripped all your CDs on your hard disk, and you now have gigabytes of MP3 songs that you have no idea how to back up in case of disaster. Wouldn't it be nice to have something offsite, easy to use, and not that expensive?


You mean like burning them to a handful of DVDs and passing the copies to your pal? Yes, I would.

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Clarification about Oboe lockers

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 04:07 AM
MP3tunes CEO Michael Robertson here.

Thanks for the article David.

I wanted to clarify a few things about the Oboe music locker service:

1) We work with all formats such as MP3, wma, aac and yes ogg too. (By the way I gave money to help develop ogg in the early days.)

2) The Oboe Sync software will sync all your playlists and music - you don't need any other software program. When you run this software it locates the music on your computer and playlists from iTunes, Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc and syncs it all to your online locker. After running Oboe Sync all your music and even playlists (like those you might have created in iTunes) will be accessible via the web interface.

The Oboe for iTunes is a plugin which accomplishes all the above PLUS lets you stream your music all directly from within iTunes. So if someone doesn't want to run an external program they can use this. This is tricky coding because Apple has no published plugin API for iTunes.

3) Oboe really shines if you have multiple computers because with a click of a button you can Oboe sync and your music is available across all devices.

Our goal with Oboe is to make sure your music is available everywhere on any device. Today we've released PC clients, but soon we'll publish our APIs which will open the door so you will always have your music on any device (think phone, pda, wifi mp3 player, car, net alarm clock, etc). Rather than being trapped in an Apple DRM laden i world, you'll be able to have your music on ANY devices you choose - even cross vendor.

There's a free account available which is fun to play with. You can't sync, but you can sideload. What's sideload you ask? It's a way to stock your locker with files from online music sites, record labels, artist sites, etc with just a click of a mouse.

Couple links of interest:
<a href="http://mp3tunes.com/screenshots/" title="mp3tunes.com">http://mp3tunes.com/screenshots/</a mp3tunes.com> Screenshots here.
<a href="http://lockerenvy.com/" title="lockerenvy.com">http://lockerenvy.com/</a lockerenvy.com> Ranking of biggest lockers based on number of files and sideload totals.

-- MR

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Re:Clarification about Oboe lockers

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 07:58 PM
Michel,

I'm a DIY amateur musician.
I was wondering what the conditions are for
getting some of my work published on mp3tunes? Or should I look into something like lulu.com then?

I can't find that anywhere on the mp3tunes website.

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Until...

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 07:57 PM
...the RIAA finds a way to subpoena the Locker's storage records then they "determine" you have illegal music stored there and file a lawsuit against you. I too will keep my Ogg's to myself or a DVD backup thank you.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)

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MP3.com fate, anyone?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 10, 2006 11:55 PM
Remembering the recent deaths of so many online storage outfits, the brewup over search records obtained at little to no inconvenience by the Government, and the fate of MP3.com, WHY would you wish to trust Gigabytes of storage to a P.T Barnum?

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Re:MP3.com fate, anyone?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 11, 2006 03:06 AM
Doesn't MP3.com still exist? Robertson sold it a few years ago, as I understand.

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Re:MP3.com fate, anyone?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 11, 2006 11:56 AM
MP3.com artists' contributions evaporated when the domain was sold to someone else, and the myriad artists took it in the shorts. So, pump and dump scheme, anyone?

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This won't last

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 11, 2006 07:33 AM
Unlimited storage for $39 a year? LOL ROFL.

Have a look at what online backup services charge for 20GB of online backup. The unlimited part is A) a flat out lie since no way they are going be able to handle 5,000 users with 80GB collections and B) a promo which won't last for any significant period of time.

I'm not slamming them just for the heck of it, this simply isn't a sustainable business model. It smacks of dotcom thinking and will be severely "limited" and ad filled within 6 months.

Wait till users start using the service to backup their entire computers. Filename.doc.mp3 should work nicely.

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Re:This won't last

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 14, 2006 03:23 AM
I can see people using this who have multiple computers, and ease of use. Probably not for us who are technically savvy. I would assume also that if 5K people have a specific tune, it wouldn't keep 5K copies, it would link all accounts to a single version of the file. I think the biggest trouble might come from the RIAA itself. Move from one computer to another, log in as the same name and poof, your entire collection is now on your friends computer.

Kevin

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Re:This won't last

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on February 14, 2006 04:26 PM
Unlimited storage for $39 a year? LOL ROFL.

Have a look at what online backup services charge for 20GB of online backup. The unlimited part is A) a flat out lie since no way they are going be able to handle 5,000 users with 80GB collections and B) a promo which won't last for any significant period of time.


Right now, 80 GB of storage can be had for about $28 retail. <a href="http://www.pricewatch.com/prc.aspx?i=26&a=5794" title="pricewatch.com">See here...</a pricewatch.com> In bulk, it'd be considerably cheaper. And, next year, they could give you 50% more storage for the same price, and come out even further ahead. Based on the last 30 years of computing history, they could continue to give you 50% more each year for the same price, and make higher margins every year on that, year after year.

This doesn't sound that stupid to me. Like most business plans, it depends on "running lean" for a while until it develops sufficient inertia to be potentially largely profitable.

The biggest problem is the RIAA - but there are plenty of people who'll sell you "DAV-space" - web-DAV directories you can publish anything you like to. This sounds suspiciously like one of those types of services...

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