how can I install fedora with out messing with xp how can i make another partition I try GParted but only limit to 8mb, I have 100g hard drive and I got about 55g free so I only want to make one of 20g for fedora 8, and with one is better ubuntu or fedora

GParted should allow You to resize the XP partition to whatever,so You can use that for fedora.Did You try to resize it?

yes but it says 8mb

should I be in some administrator I'm running fedora 8 live cd

I actually would recommend burning the GParted lievcd,and I was referring to that before.You can get it at: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php It should work better for you partition.Then try installing from your fedora disc. So just boot that up,select your xp partition,then select the resize button and set a reasonable size then have it do that,and You can add the new partitions for fedora then or wait till You install fedora,but I would wait as it will do it just fine as long as you point it to the new unused space.

ok thank I'm going to try that now I'll be back with the result

ok that didn't work something about doing a chkdsk on windows then I did but now wen I try gain now it says etc/mtab is missing

I assume You resized the xp partition.Is that error when You try to install from within the livecd?

no it still won't let me resize, i tray with the gparted live cd and still says the same thing so maybe I my have to get rid off xp I don't want to use live cd all the time

As that probably the case,I would also suggest trying the proper install cd,unless You feel comfortable with gparted.In that case all You really have to do is make a single partition out of the unused space You freed,then the livecd install option should find it and you should be fine(this will also make xp blink again lol)

what exactly does gparted do when You try to resize it?

If you do erase Your install,dont forget to double check You backed up anything You want to keep.Sometimes its the best way to go.Its hard to keep jumping between os's.

or maybe I could erase the windows recovery that 6.84gba and use that for fedora because the other I try is only 8mb

I might also add,if You need any applications that only run(well) on windows,You can use a virtual machine like virtualbox to install a copy of xp and use it inside of linux(although the graphic acceleration isn't good enough for games and such),and You can use your xp disk,You'll just have to reinstall every 30 days unless You buy a new license(most likely-dumb xp activation).Thats how i have mine set up,works well.

[quote=fninja]what exactly does gparted do when You try to resize it?[/quote] it won't let me resize it

Like You click on the graphic of the space of your xp part.,then resize/move and it does nothing?

yep

Are there little lock icons on the listed partitions(and the resize option grayed out)?

no a yellow triangle with this on(!)

shee,I'm stumped...was it the livecd or fedora that said something about mtab?

yes

both?lol.If it was the fedora that could make sense,but if its the gparted cd,then hmm.And You are booting off the gparted disc right?Also,how many paritions does(did) it list?

no both says the same thing [IMG]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o188/viper89ea/Screenshot.png[/IMG] (alt+p) [Modified by: Efrain on April 10, 2008 07:08 AM]

And it still said that after you ran chkdsk?Well if I were You I would try o get back into windows if it lets You and grab all my files I needed to a cd then either reinstall xp and select a smaller partition,or just go for fedora(or even try debian thats my fav /opinion lol!).

According to that screenshot theres a new partition youre trying to make,try cancel/deleting that and hit apply before you close gparted then strart it again.

no wen I hit apply it says error so the only way is erasing the hole hard drive?

Just close gparted and then start it again,then dont add a new partition,just select the xp partition and try the resize again.let me know what it says

I try and it says error See http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/tips/save_details.htm for more information.

...well shee I would just power off the system (hold power till it dies lol,or flip main power on the back)boot into windows and let it fix the disk.Then see about the rest.

By the way,this is probably just linux telling you to tell windows eat dirt lol!

ok I have an external hard drive so I'm going to save what I wan't and tell window bye for ever

I know I did,although I even fooled myself like ten times and went back and forth reinstalling until-after I threw away three copies of windows xp and vista lol!-I said screw it,and I'm happy with it.Dont forget the tip about virtualbox,once You get it going(Youll still need your xp disk if you want to install that in it)its handy in case you need something that doesnt run on linux every once in a while.

ok I wll work on this tomorrow

Let me know how it goes.

ok fedora 8 is running smooth so far I download the virtuabox like you toll me as soon the uptade from fedora finish I will try the virtaulbox

sounds good.did You have any problems getting your files off the xp part?And a tip for when you get vbox running-since vbox virtualizes dome of your hardware,it needs its own drivers,sojsut like you would install drivers in windows you need to install the vbox hardware the same.There is a iso of a disc that contains the drivers and things you included when You install vbox(its usaully located somewhere like usr/share/virtualbox - called vboxguestadditions.iso or something)once you boot into virtual xp,you can mount this iso through vbox's hardare/device menu. Let me know if You need help as theres always something You can forget to do(half the fun is learning!).

well fedora is taking a little wile on the up date there about 220 update so far the only problem is wen I close the lid on my laptop go in suspend wen it wake the mouse stop working

You may find a lot of little things like that ,but dont get discouraged,chances are other paople have the same issue(s),so I always get to the root of the problem first if its hardware related,and find out what my hardware is(some of the fun to be had in linux is finding out what is actually going on in your comp,in fact i've had hardware i didnt even know about like my windows media center remote ir box could also control other devices,but only under linux lol!).Sounds like in your case the touchpad? driver isnt restarting properly after you return from sleep mode.try to find out what your hardware is for that(maybe synaptics touchpad if its a trackpad),and laybe try opening a terminal and typing: lspci -v ,and/or:lsusb -v ,and have a look through those.Also maybe try: dmesg ,right after You return from suspend,and see if anything looks suspicious.lspci is showing you what pci bus devices are in your comp,and lsusb is for usb devices,dmesg shows you the recent logged events in the system log so you can see if any errors occurred.

still can find the problem for the mouse it work only if shut down and restarting now new question how can I make compiz start up every time by itself see every time tern on the laptop I have to click on the compiz icon to activates is there a startup folder

To make a program start when You login,click on the Desktop/preferences menu and look for sessions that will let You add startup programs.Click add on the startup programs tab and type in what You type to start the program.Did ever figure out what you mouse hardware was?(or is it a usb mouse?)

no is the touch pad

it seems like a driver issue with the touchpad(which I assume is a synaptics touchpad)I looked around but I didnt find an easy solution for that.

I dont think is a synaptic on the add and remove I wen on search under mouse and sofware for the touchpad synaptic but dint work I have a gateway laptop # mx6650

[quote=fninja]To make a program start when You login,click on the Desktop/preferences menu and look for sessions that will let You add startup programs.Click add on the startup programs tab and type in what You type to start the program.Did ever figure out what you mouse hardware was?(or is it a usb mouse?)[/quote] I can fin this

look under the 'system' menu at the top its in there I believe(gnome has changed a bit recently,but thats where it should be)

[quote=fninja]sounds good.did You have any problems getting your files off the xp part?And a tip for when you get vbox running-since vbox virtualizes dome of your hardware,it needs its own drivers,sojsut like you would install drivers in windows you need to install the vbox hardware the same.There is a iso of a disc that contains the drivers and things you included when You install vbox(its usaully located somewhere like usr/share/virtualbox - called vboxguestadditions.iso or something)once you boot into virtual xp,you can mount this iso through vbox's hardare/device menu. Let me know if You need help as theres always something You can forget to do(half the fun is learning!).[/quote] hello I'm back I swith to ubuntu and I'm happy with it, I need help with vbox how to install windows xp