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                        Well, I haven't used Debian but I  [i]can[/i] tell you this: I have Ubuntu

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                        Ubuntu is based on Debian so quite a few things are the same. To new users I wouldn't recommend Debian but I would rather suggest Ubuntu.

The points as listed by rectec hold true for Debian as well as all other Linux distributions, except 2, because not all distributions are live CDs. 
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                        ^_^ I said Ubuntu runs off live CDs,   Shashank Sharma.
BTW, if you don't have alot of RAM, slow Internet Connection, etc. You should get  [url=http://damnsmalllinux.org]Damn Small Linux[/url](DSL)                    </div>
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                        rectec, I never questioned your claim :) I did err in my post, in that I wanted to say: &quot;except 2, because not all distributions are live CDs.&quot; I'm gonna correct that now.

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                        I really don't want to start something bad here rectec, but I don't know whether what you said on your first post is funny or laughable.

we've established the fact that ubuntu is based off Debian, it's safe to say that 99% of what you can do with Ubuntu is possible with Debian

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Some things I've learned about Ubuntu so far:
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3. Downloadable Wallpapers, themes, Desktop Environments (DEs), and loaded with cool Screensavers.
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5. Very cool eyecandy visual effects
6. Comes with FireFox

There's probably hundreds of cool features that I'm too lazy to list.


BUT if you want to run a only 90 meg machine off ur USB drive, Damn Small Linux (DSL) is your choice![/quote]

1. so is Debian! 
2. so can debian!
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd 
http://live.debian.net/
3. you can do that with Debian too! OMG you can put a wallpaper in Debian?! As for other packages, Ubuntu's main way of doing it is through apt get or whateve, this sucks for people like me who doesn't a (decent) internet connection to the PC with Ubuntu. Debian has like umpteen extension CDs with most of the packages. Not to worry, you can use those CDs on Ubuntu as well...
4. you don't have to, but Ubuntu does have Uncomplicated Firewall out of the box
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
5. Eyecandy/visual effects with Ubuntu is CompizFusion, surprisingly it's also in Debian's repo (http://packages.debian.org/compiz) which by the way is also available for every other distro out there...
6. Did you just base your choice of OS on FireFox? Now I like FireFox, but I question why the heck Canonical put a beta program, albeit works 99%, on a LTS OS.


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                        I'll put in a plug here for Fedora. Very easy installation, bleeding edge application versions (in many cases), and very secure. I am also a big user of Ubuntu (Kubuntu actually), but there are some things that I find annoying (the approach to root user, automatic configuration options that are a nightmare to track down, etc.), that are simply not annoyances with Debian. Also, I question the statement that Ubuntu is secure enough out of the box to run without a firewall. It definitely depends on the purpose of the machine and if you plan to run any internet serving applications!!!<p class="hiddensignature">
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                        teh 'Buntu and debian are from the same.however somewhere and i dont know where,they split.once have either up and running,you will see differences between the two. 
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                        There has not been a split between Debian and Ubuntu. Most Ubuntu packages are still derived from Debian's stable and unstable development branches, and Ubuntu's packaging system is essentially the same as Debian's. Ubuntu really shines I think in its ease of installation and use for newcomers, its ease of package maintenance, and its hardware support.
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                        [quote=proopnarine]There has not been a split between Debian and Ubuntu. Most Ubuntu packages are still derived from Debian's stable and unstable development branches, and Ubuntu's packaging system is essentially the same as Debian's. Ubuntu really shines I think in its ease of installation and use for newcomers, its ease of package maintenance, and its hardware support.
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                        I have been using Ubuntu for a couple of years now, starting with Dapper which I didnt use for long because Etch arrived which I loved. Then fiesty arrived again I liked. With Gutsy a few problems started occuring with Ubuntus new found enthusiasm for fiddling with X. This began to annoy me with breakings after updates, so I looked forward to Hardy as Id done fiddling with this Ubuntu thing everyone loves but longed for a nice stable LTS. Hardy has probably been the worst yet, I have a fairly average nVidia onboard chipset that worked fine up until Gutsy/Hardy time. I eventually got to a point where I said the next time I update and reboot to find X gone wrong again it's back to Debian for good, I gave Ubuntu a really good shot(2years) and although Debian has a slow release cycle and not quite as sexy as Ubuntu there are far more rewarding things I can use my limited free time on my computer for than getting my drivers resorted out so I can use the correct screen resolution (again and again). Good bye sexy non-consistanly functioning Ubuntu and hello Boring Debian stable. By the way if anyone is toying with giving Debian ago but is put by the it's difficult to install/use rumour, don't be.                    </div>
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                        I a big Debian fan.  But I would say, if you are a newbie, it would probably be best to start with Ubuntu.  Debian is less of an 'assuming' distro, and you'll have to do more configuring during/after your install than you would with Ubuntu.

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                        I'm really glad that I found this thread, which is pretty recent, as I was googling around. As far as my personal opinion goes, Debian has fewer bells and whistles, making it, in fact, easier I think than Ubuntu. But I'd still recommend Ubuntu for beginners. Even going to Debian from Ubuntu took a bit of time for me.

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                        As a relative newcomer I find this thread really interesting. I really don't know all that much about the merits of all the Linux distros but I will say this:
As a long time Microsoft user ( Dos, Windows, etc ) I was fed up that my OS was no longer to be supported and that an expensive and unnecessary hardware upgrade would be needed to continue using what had by now become second nature.
I trawled the net and the best advice I could find was to try Kubuntu.
I was amazed at the ease of installation, the speed at which my PC now operated, and most of all at all the goodies that were available for free.
I have a dual boot system basically because I have a very expensive proprietry software package which is essential and for which there is no Linux based alternative.
In 6 months I have booted Windows about 4 times to use this package. Everything else Linux has done for me, with bells on.
Kubuntu had a bit of a learning curve associated with it but nothing like I had feared.
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Maybe I have been lucky but I would recommend Linux and particularly Kubuntu to anyone thinking of making the switch.
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I have considered running XP as a virtual machine but my hardware really isn't up to
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                        Wow, this thread continues on! I installed Kubuntu Heron on my laptop a few weeks ago, and yes, it's great. I am also running Fedora 9 on a number of larger machines, and it's also great. I used to run Debian, and it's fantastic. Bottom line, Linux rocks. It's funny, but I have been using Linux long enough to remember downloading and installing from 3.5&quot; floppies, downloading and compiling the first release of KDE from source, and the excitement of Red Hat's release of rpm. Therefore, the often heated arguments about whether Ubuntu is better than Debian, etc., often come across as not having enough perspective of the true Linux revolution.<p class="hiddensignature">
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                        One thing I found out is that getting Debian isn't really easy.
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