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                        Hi, I like the site redesign, but I am having a problem viewing it correctly. The problem seems to be that the background is white, but the fonts are using a default colour. Since I am using a black theme my default font colour is white, so I can't read most of the text without selecting it :(

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                        There is a very large blank space at the top with adblocking turned on, though of course you don't want to hear that ;)

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                        The new design looks good.  (I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Ubuntu Linux.)

I got to this new page via a bookmark I had for 'newsforge.com', which I've been reading for years.   I'm assuming that this is meant to be the &quot;new NewsForge&quot;, especially since much of the content appears to be the same.

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                        Hi, Rich.  Yes, the new Linux.com is also the new NewsForge.com.  Same editorial staff and writers.  Glad you like the new look, we're excited about it.

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                        All you need to do now is loose the ads that tell me that I'm better off using Windows.
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                        Why when I try to visit newsforge.com am I redirected here? 

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                        Newsforge is gone :-( :-(  RIP Newsforge, you will be missed.

I understand the desire to use the Linux.com domain, of course.  For those of us who have been around the *forge name has it's own attachment.  In fact I believe that's why I 1st visited Newsforge was the connection to the venerable Sourceforge.  Can't believe I'm getting all maudlin over a webb address.  Oh well, not all of existence is bound in the rational.

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If this is the first time you see this message, you can try to access the site directly through index.php
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Xaraya has failed to serve the request, and the failure could not be handled.

This is a bad sign and probably means that Xaraya is not configured properly.

The failure reason is: xarDB_init: Failed to connect to xarmysql://xardba@xaraya-db-2/lc_live2, error message: Too many connections

2.  The site is awful slow to load.

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                        Bug #4  The preview pane shows my comment without the spaces I put between paragraphs.  The preview does not display the post as it will appear on the forum.                    </div>
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                        Did I mention how slow this site loads?  This site loads so slow my dead granny could run a mile before it loads.  This site is so slow the tortoise and the hare both beat it.  This site loads so slow the rapture will be over before readers can view news from the day before the rapture started.
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                        It is unacceptably slow at the moment, our apologies.  We are working like mad behind the scenes to rectify that.  Thanks for your patience in the meantime.

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                        WarPengi, I created and named NewsForge, so it was even harder for me to let the name go, but Linux.com is a &quot;better&quot; name in a general sense for an &quot;All things Linux and open source&quot; site.

As for the rest of the changeover pain... I'm viewing it as a bystander from Seoul, S. Korea (LinuxWorld Korea is this week, and I'm here both to speak and report), and I know both the programmers and network operations people involved will get things squared away before long.

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                        This looks bad for all of Linux. I am disappointed that a site with this kind of performance is being viewed by the public. I have had complaints from a number of people I have recommended to switch to Linux about this site today. I can not defend the poor performance.

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                        Speed is slow, I'm on DSL that is usually slow, and I just came from dialup. Total load times are about what sites needed when I had dialup. Site seems to hesitate in responding at all - problem is not as if I get one graphic, then a sentence, then a pause for 10 seconds.... I get no activity in FireFox for about 10 seconds.

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Upload speed: 	673.69 	(84.21) 	100%
Surfspeed inside United States: 	145.59 	(18.19) 	100%
Surfspeed average (worldwide): 	165.91 	(20.73) 	100%
Surfspeed outside United States: 	179.39 	(22.42) 	100%
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For your site: http://www.numion.com/SiteSpeed/index.html might help you.

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                        Team,

I have noticed a 50% improvement in screen load times vs earlier today. If you are tuning....  good progress   !!!!!

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                        [quote=roblimo]WarPengi, I created and named NewsForge, so it was even harder for me to let the name go, but Linux.com is a &quot;better&quot; name in a general sense for an &quot;All things Linux and open source&quot; site.
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Allow me to disagree - the Linux.com name is a very good name for &quot;All things Linux&quot;, but in my opinion (and I suspect, the opinion of many others who use lots of different OSS things on lots of different platforms) it is a poorer name for &quot;all things open source&quot;...
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                        [quote=roblimo]WarPengi, I created and named NewsForge, so it was even harder for me to let the name go, but Linux.com is a &quot;better&quot; name in a general sense for an &quot;All things Linux and open source&quot; site.[/quote]

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                        [quote=noldrin]The Bad: The light blue highlighting that follows ones mouse is very annoying. (very)[/quote]

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                        Haven't tried IE yet, but any site that is slow enough for me to give up on the page load to go on to other things isn't exactly going to get me to frequent it.

And, I must agree with others who commented about the name... isn't there as much or MORE OSS running on Windows? Or, is everyone running this site so biased against Windows unilaterally that anything associated with it is simply discounted?

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                        Hi,

1. I  prefer the old setup, as the layout's less in-your-face than
the new one; permitting more textual information / skimming 
more news items at a glance. Also the visual weighting 
of the features vs the raw newsvac worked quite nicely.

Now news around the web's nearly half the width of the
text area; font far too large, only headlines visible for
2nd and later items.

As for the feature text - even this seems to offer maybe 
half as much information as before; maybe because 
the 'stylish nav menu' is too wide. 

Navigation column: far too wide, too heavy visual
borders, font far too large (remember: people rarely
try to read much text in the nav column, so it doesn't
matter if they squint for a second, as long as they don't
have to squint for the main textual content, i.e. the features).

Tweaking font sizes, table cell width or allowing users to
select a css-style via cookies or whatever might solve
most of the points above.

[firefox 2.04; ancient linux box rather old gtk/... installations]


2. The current setup via linux.com seems slower than the
old via newsforge (?!)


3. And a non-code problem:

   Fearing a possible change of topics and
   definitely the perception of a far more restricted scope

I'd kind of considered newsforge a one-stop point for news on 
free unix, from linux to bsd, opensolaris to more interesting stuff
like minix3, plan9 or hurd. With a flavouring about new non-intel
hardware and a peek once in a while at larger changes to
commercial unices software or hardware, from OS x (ok...) to
Solaris, AIX and maybe even HP-UX.

Given the switch in the hostname, I see some possible problem
with community generated content for non-linux topics.

And given the hostname, if such content is NOT 100% linux
specific (say Lawrence Lessig's change in research topic), I
can easily imagine non-community people now saying: 
&quot;oh that's just a special interest linux resource, but I'm not a geek,
I won't read it even if people-in-the-know try to point me to important
articles on linux.com.&quot; 

IMHO Newsforge's name being more neutral was an advantage.

cu
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