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Posted Nov 24, 2007 at 3:28:02 AM
Subject: Some Questions
Ok well i have been wanting to switch over to Linux for a while now and never had the chance till now. I have never before ran Linux and i have absolutely no idea what i am doing, so before i start doing anything i was wondering if u guys had any suggestions on what Linux OS i should. What i want to do is run Windows Vista along with a Linux on the same computer so i have been searching for HOWTOs and i found one in particular that i like [url]http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first[/url] its to run a Ubuntu + Windows Vista. Saying that what i am asking for is: -is Ubuntu a good idea to go with or is there anything better that i can install that will allow me to run WVista with it. -Also anything i should know before buying/download and installing linux would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Shashank Sharma
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Posted: Nov 26, 2007 8:59:38 PM
Subject: Some Questions
You can go for virtualization software such as VMWare or MS Virtual PC that will allow you to install Linux within your existing installation of Windows. It's completely safe and I think for a new user it's the best thing to do if you have a fast system and enough RAM. It's certainly easier than dual-booting. You can go in for any of the modern Linux distribution such as Mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu or OpenSUSE. They are all great and as a new user, I'd recommend you give them all a shot so as to learn how each does things differently and it's also a good learning exercise. I don't understand what you mean by "Also anything i should know before buying/download and installing linux would be great.". There are no pit-falls and no surprises and everything you can do on Windows you can on Linux. I suggest you use Google or your favorite search engine to find out if your graphics card, etc. are supported on the Linux distribution you do decide to install.

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Posted: Dec 01, 2007 12:29:59 AM
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[quote=Shashank Sharma]You can go for virtualization software such as VMWare or MS Virtual PC that will allow you to install Linux within your existing installation of Windows. It's completely safe and I think for a new user it's the best thing to do if you have a fast system and enough RAM. It's certainly easier than dual-booting. You can go in for any of the modern Linux distribution such as Mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu or OpenSUSE. They are all great and as a new user, I'd recommend you give them all a shot so as to learn how each does things differently and it's also a good learning exercise. I don't understand what you mean by "Also anything i should know before buying/download and installing linux would be great.". There are no pit-falls and no surprises and everything you can do on Windows you can on Linux. I suggest you use Google or your favorite search engine to find out if your graphics card, etc. are supported on the Linux distribution you do decide to install.[/quote] Thx for the suggestion this will be alot easier for me to learn Linux before i actully install it. I have a question though i got MS Virtual PC and i got it working so far i think its working properly. I started it up and i manage to get the Ubunto Live CD working on it only problem is the only way that i can get a desktop to show up is if i boot with safe graphics mode. i am no sure if this is a problem or not but i felt that i should metion it. My real problem is i cant use the cursor and i have no way of clicking the Install icon i been trying for about 30 mins now trying to somehow highlight it and click enter but i cant manage to do it the cursor hasnt moved. There is actully 2 cursors i am assuming the one i can move around is from my host OS. Can Anyone help???? Please and Thank you. Edit: I tried running the Install or Update Virtual Machine Additions and at the end it shows me: [code=xml]Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device[/code] [Modified by: BoBo on December 01, 2007 01:07 AM]
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Posted: Dec 01, 2007 5:04:08 PM
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hey dude! So your having trouble huh? Virtual machines are ok but installing linux as a duel boot will be better. Now i have never tried a VM on windows as im a mac user, now i know what your thinking but have a think first. OS X is built on unix, as we know is solid and it has a fantastic GUI built on top and i'm using a VM called Paralells and it works but most of what i do requires Terminal. Now installing from source isn't a problem but there are some things that i cant do, and i'm seriously thinking about having a machine just for Redhat. So yes as you might have realised i have no answer for the original question but i do think a duel boot will be the better option. (if all goes well of course) Kind regards

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Posted: Dec 02, 2007 12:19:08 PM
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BoBO, try the solution listed here: http://www.nettakeaway.com/tp/article/319/ubuntu-710-and-no-mouse-on-virtual-pc

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Posted: Dec 03, 2007 3:57:36 AM
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Hey Shashank Sharma i just wanna thank you for all the help i got Ubuntu running on a VPC thx to you :D, i am actually posting from it right now. And i have another newb question of the many to come i am sure and that is how do i get my mouse out of the VPC like once i click on it i dont know how to get out lol it like being stuck inside a room with no way out =/. i figured out to click Right Alt + Enter and it gives me a warning if i want to go into Full Screen and this give me control out of the window which is annoying to do so i was wondering if there are any other ways to do this?? Thanks in Advance. :P Edit: Also what would be a good amount of RAM to all my VPC to run on? my laptop has 2G. [Modified by: BoBo on December 03, 2007 03:59 AM]
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Posted: Dec 03, 2007 4:32:53 AM
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Hey dude. To the best of my knowledge its the right ALT key, failing that try the shift key. Kind Regards [Modified by: alpinesatan on December 03, 2007 04:43 AM]

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Posted: Dec 03, 2007 4:22:19 PM
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BoBo, one is glad to be of service :) And yes, it's the Right-Alt key to release the mouse. BTW, if you're going to be using the virtual machine a lot, you might think about install Virtual PC Additions. This will give you drag 'n drop support, free movement of mouse between guest and host OS, etc. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824561 I too have 2 GB RAM, on a dual core 1.86 Ghz PC. I find my virtual machine runs smoothly at 1 GB RAM. But, if you wish to simultaneously run more than one virtual machine, give them 512 MB each or 400 MB each for more than one. The advantage with 1 GB is that you still have enough juice left for Windows. Cheers!

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Posted: Dec 03, 2007 11:10:53 PM
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Al right man thx for all the help
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Posted: Dec 04, 2007 1:25:31 AM
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K well i have been trying to get the additions to install on my VM and i have had no success. The link that u gave me wasn't much help =/ cuz the install is clearly not how it says it is. The .iso file that it attaches is for Win. Dos and OS/2 not for linux so i have been trying to find one that is for linux. i ran into some How-to's on the net that talk about VMAdditionsForLinux.iso but they all point to Micrsoft Connect or something like that and i don't have access on that Website. So am i going in the wrong direction or something or where can i download this VMAdditionsForLinux.iso. Thanks
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Posted: Dec 04, 2007 4:18:53 AM
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ok so i found a VMAddditionsforLinux.msi and i found out that i need a program like Wine to run the file. I read on a couple forums that i should try avoiding .msi files but i kinda have no where else to go and i am bored plus i knew i would be download Wine anyways. Ok so i follows the instructions on the wine website ([url]http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb[/url]) on how to download and install the package and i get this error [code=xml]The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine: Depends: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable Depends: libaudio2 but it is not installable E: Broken packages [/code] any suggestions?
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Posted: Dec 04, 2007 6:59:56 AM
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That means you need to install the two listed programs. It's not a hassle really. You don't have to install the Additions if you don't want to. I personally don't use MS Virtual PC (VMWare user here) so I don't know about what the exact issue. Let me rack my brain and I'll see if I can find out what you need to do. Cheers!

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