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My Workstation OS: Foresight Linux

By Alex Bucur on June 24, 2005 (8:00:00 AM)

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The Foresight Linux 0.8.1 distribution showcases some of the latest and greatest software from GNOME. Some of the more innovative things are included, like Beagle, F-spot, Howl, and the latest HAL -- all of this plus some clean default themes and artwork. After using Foresight for an week I decided to use it as my primary distro.

Installing Foresight is easy because it uses the same Anaconda installer used by Red Hat and Fedora Core. Unfortunately you can only choose between the minimal packages or a full install. When Anaconda finishes, you will have a GNOME 2.10 desktop with a 2.6.11.7 Linux kernel, gcc 3.3.3, and xorg 6.8.2.

One of the most innovative applications in Foresight is Conary, a distributed software management system for Linux distributions. According to its Web site:

It replaces traditional package management solutions (such as RPM and dpkg) with one designed to enable loose collaboration across the Internet. It enables sets of distributed and loosely connected repositories to define the components which are installed on a Linux system. Rather than having a full distribution come from a single vendor, it allows administrators and developers to branch a distribution, keeping the pieces which fit their environment while grabbing components from other repositories across the Internet.

Common commands in Conary are conary update packagename (for updating or installing a binary package), conary emerge packagename (experimental updating/installing of a source package), conary erase packagename (removing a package), conary q packagename (for searching for an installed package), and conary rq packagename (for searching for a remote package). If you use it to update a package, Conary will download only the things that are different and not the entire package.

All the packages of Foresight are compiled for i686 architecture, so the distribution is pretty fast. So is booting -- Foresight starts on my machine in 28 seconds.

The desktop

As long as you're a GNOME user, you'll like the Foresight desktop. The default theme is Clearlooks with a nice background. It features the GNOME 2.10 desktop, Firefox and Epiphany Web browsers, Evolution mail, GAIM instant messaging, Gnomebaker CD/DVD burning utility, Xpdf, and Evince. The default media players are Muine and Rhythmbox for the audio part and Totem for the video one. The OpenOffice.org suite isn't installed by default; instead, you have Abiword and Gnumeric. Also included are some games and other applications. Foresight doesn't contain non-free applications such as Flash, Java, and some MP3 codecs, but a Foresight Extras repository maintains those.

Despite all its good points, some Foresight components may not be mature enough for everyday use because all of them are still in early development and don't have all the functionality. I found system stability to be good; except for minor problems with Conary, everything worked fine, and I never had an system crash.

Foresight also lacks a centralized configuration tool like SUSE's Yast, though the Red Hat/Fedora configuration tools are present. I'd also like to see an improved Conary GUI.

The Foresight development team prides itself on having an excellent community of users and an accessible development team that can be contacted is various ways (forum, wiki, and mailing list).

Foresight worked as you'd expect it to for everyday usage. Hardware was correctly detected, and there were no nasty surprises. For normal desktop use, Foresight is a fine choice.

What's your desktop OS of choice? So far, we've heard from fans of FreeBSD, Mepis Linux, Debian, Xandros, Slackware, Windows XP, Lycoris, SUSE Professional, NetBSD, Ubuntu, FreeDOS, Libranet, Mandrakelinux, Arch Linux, Mac OS X, Knoppix, Linspire, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS, Yoper, Fedora Core 3, Windows 2000 Professional, Damn Small Linux, VidaLinux, Kanotix, VectorLinux, Irix, Scientific Linux, Linux From Scratch, Frugalware, and Kurumin.

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Foresight Linux Screenshots

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2005 09:22 PM
<a href="http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=329&slide=30&title=foresight+linux+0.8+screenshots" title="osdir.com">shots.OSDir.com</a osdir.com>

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repositories

Posted by: WarPengi on June 24, 2005 10:44 PM
So how about a list of the repositories you are using Alex? Is there a Foresight repository and have you tried adding repositories from other distro's? I sure wonder how well Conary works and how a stable distribution can be maintained using mixed repositories. It sounds like a very interesting idea but does it work?

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Re:repositories

Posted by: Alex_Bucur on June 25, 2005 02:02 AM
By default you have the foresight and rpath(formely specifix) repositories in the path. You can add additional repos, like the non-free easily. Foresight has a guide on their wiki, similar to ubuntu. I didn't have any problems about this mixed repositories because conary is designed with this in mind.

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Re:repositories

Posted by: WarPengi on June 25, 2005 02:18 AM
Cool. Thanks for the response. I'll read the wiki to get a better understanding of Conary.

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united we stand

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 26, 2005 06:53 AM
Microsoft will never be beaten on the desktop with 200 different linux distributions.

In 10 years, windows will still rule the desktop, because each linux guy is still doing things his own way.

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Re:united we stand

Posted by: JZA on June 27, 2005 07:52 PM
As long as Linux rule the mobile phone we will rule the world.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

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Re:united we stand

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 28, 2005 04:51 AM
Actually, that is true. Fragmenting is a bad thing, but Conary (the system Foresight is built on) helps stop fragmenting. The idea is, you can build a stable platform easily, on a group of loosely connected network repositories. So, this means multiple conary distros doesn't mean fragmenting. Things just work, it is a beautiful thing!

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Re:united we stand

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 28, 2005 06:37 AM
In the decadent west you have the wasteful creation of many different kinds of refrigerator. Here in the Soviet Union, we have efficiently provided only one refrigerator. You know that it's the best because Comrade Stalin has approved it! This is why the West will never succeed and the Soviet Union will encompass the earth!


  (Yeah, your post sounds that lame over here in linux-land.)

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Political work always has been diverse.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on July 03, 2005 12:38 PM
Organization of the kind you seem to want is a myth. It's putting a simple face on something that is quite complicated and difficult to understand without experience. The simplicity can be beneficial in the short term, but understanding a problem thoroughly requires experimentation and time. Users should come to appreciate that doing things one's own way is how science is done.

Letting a thousand flowers bloom, as the saying goes, has worked well for so many things in the past (including the process of evolution), it's hard to knock the system.

Besides, it isn't a single approach to package management, desktop environments, or any such technical thing that will be the undoing of Microsoft. The undoing of Microsoft isn't actually that important. What's important is giving users software freedom from any proprietor (Microsoft being only one proprietor).

--J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jbn@forestfield.org)

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digiKam, , hitting gnome on it's F-spot?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 26, 2005 10:04 PM
I wonder what so interesting about F-spot?

digiKam has been around for a while and it is quite lovely.

<a href="http://www.digikam.org/Digikam-SPIP/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=3" title="digikam.org">http://www.digikam.org/Digikam-SPIP/rubrique.php3<nobr>?<wbr></nobr> id_rubrique=3</a digikam.org>

cu / birger....

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Re:digiKam, , hitting gnome on it's F-spot?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 28, 2005 10:52 AM
I agree. I tried F-Spot. Seems like a simplistic photo album manager.
digiKam is superb in comparison. With the amount of flexibility and plugins, its a killer app, as far as I am concerned.

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Foresight Linux is a poor performer

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 125.20.39.39] on September 20, 2007 02:41 AM
I have tried it. It has a good selection of software. But it is not a good performer. Try PCLinuxOS Gnome Remaster (available at Linuxgator.org) if you like gnome.

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