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Link to this post 03 Oct 09

Ok, so I've decided to buy a laptop with Linux pre-installed and have been searching the net for a few weeks now. I'm in Ireland - this generally means that if you want anything out of the ordinary you'd search UK vendors. Buying from the US usually means a heavy 'duty' tax bill arriving in the post soon after you take delivery so going outside Europe isn't really an option.
Anyway, I'm having real difficulty getting what I want. I've a budget of around €600 and I don't want something with a crappy little 10" screen. It seems that any linux based system with a 15.6" screen is €100's more than the exact same spec with windows.
I've read this might be down to 'extra support costs' and a 'smaller market demand' making Linux less attractive discouraging vendors from making them available but I know they do make them. It just seems impossible to find out about them. I'm super frustrated right now :angry:
I'm not asking for someone to recommend a particular model or vendor. Am I just looking in the wrong places? Where can I find reliable and UP TO DATE information laptops (not netbooks) with linux preinstalled? This is a 'getting started with Linux' forum - I can't even get that far if I don't have the right tools right?
Please help!

Barry

Link to this post 03 Oct 09

Barry,

Although you can find a laptop with Linux pre-installed on it for the price you mention, most laptops will run Linux just fine even if they don't come with it by default. For example, I run Ubuntu on my 2 Dell laptops (a D630 and Inspirion 9300) very happily and Ubuntu has absolutely zero problems with the WiFi, Bluetooth, and broadband wireless devices I use. Anyway, for your 600 Euros you should be able to find a decent laptop that if it doesn't come with Linux pre-installed, will be able to run Linux in any case.

Link to this post 03 Oct 09

I concur about the Dell computers. I have a Studio 17 and a Studio XPS 13 running Fedora 11 perfectly. I purchased them with Vista installed (I really hated to but....I needed to dual boot so I could show others the difference and how one works as well as the other on the same hardware), but since they sell them with Ubuntu pre-installed most of their hardware (if not all) works with Linux. And there is a Dell Ireland you can buy from. I guess without the extra tax problem. See Link:

http://ireland.dell.com/ie/en/gen/df.aspx?refid=df&s=gen

Hope that helped.

Link to this post 04 Oct 09

Hi lads, thanks for getting back to me so soon. I've downloaded the linux live CD and used it on my current laptop (a tatty 4 y/o Acer) and it seems damn nice, however, I'm just a little unsure about trying to install it myself especially as I'm looking for dual booting. I wanna move over to Linux (Ubuntu) but I think it might be a little difficult (at first at least) to get some of my other hardware & specific software to work properly with Linux e.g. my mobile phone etc... so I'll sit on the fence and use windows whenever I've no choice!
I think that my gripe is more about how difficult it is to find out about these laptops and find them on the vendor's / OEM's sites. I can't count the amount of sites I've gone to and searched for laptop+Linux only to see no matches, something with a 9" screen or a bunch of windows laptops popping up as the result.
For years I've been telling people to use open office and Firefox etc... but most people just wanna egt results in a couple of clicks (me included!) but there seems a lot of barriers. I suppose I might find out where I can suggest to linux.com that they have a dedicated section that gives direct links to machines running linux. Something that members can submit links to subject to voluntary moderators approval. It could even be a place where owners could post reviews etc... Any thoughts on this?

Link to this post 04 Oct 09

Manufacturers sign contracts with Microsoft that prevent them from advertising Linux on their front page. I'm sure behind the scenes wheeling and dealing have also been the reason Asus and Lenovo have also stopped their positive bent for Linux. So, for mainstream manufacturers, one must dig into their websites to find the Linux pre-installed versions of their computers.
I must say that Dell has made it easier in recent months. When looking at their laptops/netbooks, the OS choice has now become front and center when choosing models. But, that's the exception to the rule.

Sites like:
http://www.emperorlinux.com/
http://www.system76.com/?gclid=CKTC7MvkoZ0CFdZM5QodWHfD7Q
http://www.linux-laptop.net/
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
http://www.thelinuxlaptop.com/
and the many other sites that come up when you google "linux laptop" "linux desktop" etc are what we have for now.

Link to this post 10 Oct 09

I'm in Ireland - this generally means that if you want anything out of the ordinary you'd search UK vendors.

I'd been through the same......

TuxMobil is worth a look for Linux on Laptops and other devices..
http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_manufacturer.html
http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html

The starred manufacturers in the second link above sell Laptops with Linux according to the site..

Other places to check would be
www.pcsystems.ie
www.expansys.ie
www.pixmania.ie

There are others like dabs, elara etc.,

I purchased a Toshiba satellite pro recently for under 600 (ex VAT) but that was with XP..
Would be nice if somebody offered PCs, Notebooks with something like Freedos, so we could choose what to install and avoid OS costs :)

On your Ubuntu installation, why not check out Wubi/. Other possibility would be to just install VirtualBox. That way you can check out if most of your hardware is recognized..

Hope this helps!

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