Yes the iwlist wlan0 scan works and I am sending through the wireless adapter, how ever it still does not show in NETWORK MANAGER. The RADAR tool will pick up the sites so that one works.
So I still have a problem with it being detected by NETWORK MANAGER. I have 2 routers to get the signal through the house so the scan was correct.
What do you need to see?

debian:~# iwlist wlan0 scan

wlan0     Scan completed :

          Cell 01 - Address: 00:02:6F:61:7F:D7

                    ESSID:"Hey"

                    Mode:Master

                    Channel:9

                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)

                    Quality=46/100  Signal level=-82 dBm  

                    Encryption key:on

                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s

                              11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s

                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

                    Extra:tsf=0000008fde4e56aa

          Cell 02 - Address: 00:24:01:72:92:29

                    ESSID:"Hey"

                    Mode:Master

                    Channel:9

                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)

                    Quality=54/100  Signal level=-36 dBm  

                    Encryption key:on

                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s

                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s

                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

                    Extra:tsf=000000a7eff6df68

I seriously encourage you to umount/eject the device before unplugging it.

I hear you but I had to test it to see if it would work as if should and it did. unmount/reject is the best and safest way to do it, I agree.

OK commented out the lines

 #/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime 0 0 

 #/dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb2 vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime 0 0

That is an option, but I think we're close to solving this now, so let's give it a couple of more days

OK I will wait, was going wait, just thinking ahead.. I am learning Linux... boy oh boy.. I am a 59 yr old man learning a new trick. :laugh:

OK, I entered the command:

debian:~# usermod --append --groups adm,cdrom,audio,video,plugdev,games,users,lpadmin,netdev,scanner jim

debian:~# 

Rebooted, the TD came up automatically, but not the HD, I unmounted the TD unplugged it and plugged it back in and it mounted. So I think the TD is OK.

In order to get HD to mount I have to go to root and command line it. It will still not do it automatically.

debian:~# mount /mnt/usb2

debian:~# 

It mounts and I can access, I unmount it and unplug it and plug it back in it will not remount, until I do it from the command line then it will mount.

No I did not unmount them, on my first install, I was able to unplug them and plug them back in and it automatically accessed them. I did not have to do anything special.

The TD will remount if I

unmount

It is a required thing to unmount in Linux?

There is a ton of information here in this thread, I am tempted now that I have this stuff working to try a new install and see if this stuff will set up automatically. What do you think?

The drives will mount if plugged in when I reboot, but if I unplug them and replug them back they will not remount.

Well this change made both drives work....
Code:
/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb2 vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime 0 0

debian:~# cat /etc/group

root:x:0:

daemon:x:1:

bin:x:2:

sys:x:3:

adm:x:4:

tty:x:5:

disk:x:6:

lp:x:7:

mail:x:8:

news:x:9:

uucp:x:10:

man:x:12:

proxy:x:13:

kmem:x:15:

dialout:x:20:

fax:x:21:

voice:x:22:

cdrom:x:24:

floppy:x:25:

tape:x:26:

sudo:x:27:

audio:x:29:jim

dip:x:30:

www-data:x:33:

backup:x:34:

operator:x:37:

list:x:38:

irc:x:39:

src:x:40:

gnats:x:41:

shadow:x:42:

utmp:x:43:

video:x:44:

sasl:x:45:

plugdev:x:46:

staff:x:50:

games:x:60:

users:x:100:

nogroup:x:65534:

libuuid:x:101:

crontab:x:102:

scanner:x:103:

ssl-cert:x:104:

Debian-exim:x:105:

mlocate:x:106:

ssh:x:107:

messagebus:x:108:

avahi-autoipd:x:109:

avahi:x:110:

netdev:x:111:

lpadmin:x:112:

gdm:x:113:

stb-admin:x:114:

haldaemon:x:115:

powerdev:x:116:

jim:x:1000:

debian:~# 

I can now read both drives and have sound.. but WOW LOL

OK, made the changes

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.

#

# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>

proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0

/dev/hda1       /               ext3    errors=remount-ro 0       1

/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0

/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0

/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0

/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime,silent 0 0

/dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb2 vfat,ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime,silent 0 0

HD is working :cheer: The TD seems to be having a permissions issue.

debian:~# mount /mnt/usb

NTFS signature is missing.

Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument

The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.

Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a

partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?



debian:~# mount /mnt/usb2

debian:~# 

TD permisions:

Also the Jim Backup is now showing as a HD. I can access the Jim Backup , but I cannot open either of the usb/usb2 drives, I get the same permission denied as above when I try to access the TD.
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could you post the contents of the file /etc/group so we can check if these are more permissions-issues?

 GNU nano 2.0.7              File: /etc/group                                  

root:x:0:

daemon:x:1:

bin:x:2:

sys:x:3:

adm:x:4:

tty:x:5:

disk:x:6:

lp:x:7:

mail:x:8:

news:x:9:

uucp:x:10:

man:x:12:

proxy:x:13:

kmem:x:15:

dialout:x:20:

fax:x:21:

voice:x:22:

cdrom:x:24:

floppy:x:25:

We are one step closer..... :woohoo:

Thumb drive and HD

OK, maybe my fault here.

What I have is 4G TD that is FAT32, one my first install this was recognized and accesses with no intervention on my part. This time it is not.
I also have a USB external HD that is NTFS.

Upon closer inspection, I see that the contents of your /etc/fstab is in fact this:
/dev/disk/by-id
/usb-UT163_USB_Flash_Disk_00000000001055-0:0-part1 /mnt/usb ntfs-3g users,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime,silent 0 0
You just have to remove all the whitespace between /dev/disk/by-id and /usb-(...)

Did this, but still not working.
This is with the TD:

debian:~# mount /mnt/usb

NTFS signature is missing.

Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument

The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.

Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a

partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?

This is with the HD:

debian:~# mount /mnt/usb

ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/disk/by-id/usb-UT163_USB_Flash_Disk_00000000001055-0:0-part1': No such file or directory

Please type '/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g --help' for more information.

I was able to install PalTalk in Wine and it comes up and connects, but the screen to display the rooms does not display the rooms, anyone successively running PT on Lenny?

Thanks

Sound

Did you try to install the gstreamer plugins?

debian:~# usermod -a -G adm,admin,cdrom,audio,video,games,users,netdev,plugdev,lpadmin,pulse-access,sambashare jim

usermod: unknown group admin

usermod: unknown group pulse-access

usermod: unknown group sambashare

debian:~# 

Kind of weird because the first install it worked right away and this second I have to do all this extra stuff. But the complete sound device works, records plays back etc..

HD

OK I made the su -c "mkdir /mnt/usb"
fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.

#

# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>

proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0

/dev/hda1       /               ext3    errors=remount-ro 0       1

/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0

/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0

/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0

/dev/disk/by-id

/usb-UT163_USB_Flash_Disk_00000000001055-0:0-part1 /mnt/usb ntfs-3g users,rw,no$,rw,noauto,umask=000,relatime,silent 0 0

debian:~# mount /mnt/usb

ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/usb-UT163_USB_Flash_Disk_00000000001055-0:0-part1': No such file or directory

Please type '/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g --help' for more information.

debian:~# 

Again on the first install I did not have this issue, once I installed ntfs-3g I was able to look at the HD, the thumbdrive worked from the get go with no intervention.

NetworkManager
Tried the suggested and it still did not work, but we can work on that later, this HD thing is more important